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    Wage table

    Interesting to see that the Toon is the only PL club to lower their wage bill over last season.

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    We should be commended for lowering it.
    The trouble with football today is, we are all desensitised to the money issue and we slate clubs paying less rather than slate the clubs paying way over the odds.

    We don't get 94 million a season worth of excitement just as Man Utd fans don't get 296 million worth....nor the rest but we are conditioned to accept that these millions are deserved. They're not.

    No player should even be earning 1 million a season if the truth be known, from my stance anyway.
    I know I know, the argument would be " but you pay peanuts and you get monkeys."
    It wouldn't be peanuts and any player would give his all for that amount of money if it was toned right down.

    This is why the game's going to pot.

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    I think the reason the game is going to pot is owners that just come along and bleed clubs for all they are worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    We should be commended for lowering it.
    The trouble with football today is, we are all desensitised to the money issue and we slate clubs paying less rather than slate the clubs paying way over the odds.

    We don't get 94 million a season worth of excitement just as Man Utd fans don't get 296 million worth....nor the rest but we are conditioned to accept that these millions are deserved. They're not.

    No player should even be earning 1 million a season if the truth be known, from my stance anyway.
    I know I know, the argument would be " but you pay peanuts and you get monkeys."
    It wouldn't be peanuts and any player would give his all for that amount of money if it was toned right down.

    This is why the game's going to pot.
    You are right...well you would be if we also became more successful whilst cutting the wage bill.

    I know you don't mean what you post..just enjoy being contrary...but I have to ask...do you really expect us to applaud fat Mike for standing up and trying to make things better? Haha.

    The reality is...you generally have to spend to become more successful. ..you then earn more money, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    I think the reason the game is going to pot is owners that just come along and bleed clubs for all they are worth.
    The game has changed beyond recognition in my lifetime,in the early fifties when Newcastle held the post war record average gate of over 50,000 the players were on a maximum wage of about 15 per week which was cut to half in the summer months.

    Where did all the money go apart from transfer fees which were offset by player sales.?

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    The massive wages-well. they're obscene, really-are one of the reasons, imo, that football supporters have less patience with players/teams/managers.

    They're so far removed from our reality that that bond that used to exist-because they were just, basically, one of us-has been eroded to the point where it barely even exists any more. For example, Diame. Yesterday Steve Howey was talking about how Diame wants security for him and his family with a 2 year deal instead of a one year one and, while obviously you want the best for your family and to get the most you can while you can, what he earns in one year would set most of the rest of us up for life. Most of our first-teamers will get in a year what most of us wouldn't even be able to earn in a lifetime of MUCH harder work and that leads to folk expecting more from players/teams/managers, even if subconsciously, because of the huge numbers involved.

    Don't see it changing, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    The massive wages-well. they're obscene, really-are one of the reasons, imo, that football supporters have less patience with players/teams/managers.

    They're so far removed from our reality that that bond that used to exist-because they were just, basically, one of us-has been eroded to the point where it barely even exists any more. For example, Diame. Yesterday Steve Howey was talking about how Diame wants security for him and his family with a 2 year deal instead of a one year one and, while obviously you want the best for your family and to get the most you can while you can, what he earns in one year would set most of the rest of us up for life. Most of our first-teamers will get in a year what most of us wouldn't even be able to earn in a lifetime of MUCH harder work and that leads to folk expecting more from players/teams/managers, even if subconsciously, because of the huge numbers involved.

    Don't see it changing, either.
    Unfortunately the majority of them are on a par with the prima donnas of the stage and film world and therefore have become to act like them also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usedtobeshearer View Post
    You are right...well you would be if we also became more successful whilst cutting the wage bill.

    I know you don't mean what you post..just enjoy being contrary...but I have to ask...do you really expect us to applaud fat Mike for standing up and trying to make things better? Haha.

    The reality is...you generally have to spend to become more successful. ..you then earn more money, etc.
    I don't expect you to do anything. Do exactly as you wish, like I do.

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    There's too much worrying about where money goes. We all know the game's massively corrupt. We all know that rich people are not rich by being stupid and all giving for no returns.
    Once we all started arguing over a players not being on enough money and the club needing to up the weekly wage to 100,000 in order to get some decent player to perform, we lost our minds to the inner workings rather than what we see on the pitch as 11 men plus subs playing a 90 plus minute game.

    We're even bemoaning training facilities because they're not state of the art and believing what we have is not fit for purpose, yet look where Shearer and co were training in the Keegan era, where players like Warren Barton would want to be part of the club so much so that he left the wage negotiations to Keegan and Hall, saying something like....I'm sure you'll give me a fair wage.

    That's the football I want. I'm sick and tired of this molly coddling. It's killing the game fast as the game we all knew as a bread and butter like game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    Unfortunately the majority of them are on a par with the prima donnas of the stage and film world and therefore have become to act like them also.
    Well that's another aspect of fans falling 'out of love' with football...they go on like such twats now that you just lose all respect for them. Grown men throwing themselves down and howling like babies to get another player into trouble or to waste a bit of time? I'm not holding rugby up as the 'ideal'-but the other year when the Falcons played, there was one tackle on a player and I've never seen anything as brutal in my life (it was a fair tackle, too. ). The guy was down for ages and, frankly, I wouldn't have been surprised to see a priest walk on to give him the last rites, but after treatment he not only got back to his feet but carried on with the rest of the game.

    Aye, I know, different context, rules, etc,but, still....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    The massive wages-well. they're obscene, really-are one of the reasons, imo, that football supporters have less patience with players/teams/managers.

    They're so far removed from our reality that that bond that used to exist-because they were just, basically, one of us-has been eroded to the point where it barely even exists any more. For example, Diame. Yesterday Steve Howey was talking about how Diame wants security for him and his family with a 2 year deal instead of a one year one and, while obviously you want the best for your family and to get the most you can while you can, what he earns in one year would set most of the rest of us up for life. Most of our first-teamers will get in a year what most of us wouldn't even be able to earn in a lifetime of MUCH harder work and that leads to folk expecting more from players/teams/managers, even if subconsciously, because of the huge numbers involved.

    Don't see it changing, either.
    This is why we all end up arguing the toss, because there's a bridge between older fans and younger one's.
    We begrudgingly accept what's happening but the younger fans embrace it because it's a different scene.

    It's a Justin Bieber scenario with many clubs in the top flight with otehr clubs busting a gut to get there to follow the trend, only to be cast off to the scrap heap when it does eventually fail in short order. It gets called AMBITION.

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    You would think Mike thinks you get extra league points for saving money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    This is why we all end up arguing the toss, because there's a bridge between older fans and younger one's.
    We begrudgingly accept what's happening but the younger fans embrace it because it's a different scene.
    That's actually a really interesting point.As each 'generation' of fans comes through, the stuff that we complain about now will be their 'norm' and will become 'well, that's just the way it is'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    That's actually a really interesting point.As each 'generation' of fans comes through, the stuff that we complain about now will be their 'norm' and will become 'well, that's just the way it is'.
    Aye.

    When my son grows up to be able to appreciate football properly i suspect VAR will be a key part of it and he'll be astounded that it use to be such a controversial thing.

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