European Elections

[sinkov]

Who will you vote for BT?

Well he won't be voting for Tommy Robinson will he 59, I don't think many will. Despite lefty politicians and the lefty media trying to big them up, (they do like using the spectre of a far-right bogeyman to scare us) the far-right and people like Tommy Robinson are an irrelevance in British politics, and they'll make no impression at all in these elections. I expect Tommy is standing because he thinks a few hundred malcontents in places like Oldham and Rochdale might vote for him, but he will inevitably sink without trace.

But the Brexit Party are putting up some impressive candidates for us in the NW. Claire Fox, a left-wing libertarian, advocate of free speech, just like me, and ex Communist Party member. Henrik-Overgaard Neilson, a Danish socialist and David Bull, an openly gay TV presenter. I expect they are the three who will be elected, but there's also Ajay Jagota, a NE businessman and entrepreneur and Elizabeth Oyedoyin Babade, a barrister and solicitor.

I can imagine the steam coming out of their ears and blue smoke curling up from the top of their heads, as the researchers and staffers at the BBC and Guardian try to shoe-horn that lot into their little box labelled 'Far-Right, Racist, Bigoted, Little Englanders' but no doubt they'll be giving it a bloody good go.

[1959_60]

I'm going to risk another link here - I never learn.

I can't see many people from the Warrington area supporting the Brexit Party, can you?

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...ox-ira-stance/

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Really, you can't say testicles on here?

We say bollox on here, it gets away from the UK's PC police!

[Norder]

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[sinkov]

I'm going to risk another link here - I never learn.

I can't see many people from the Warrington area supporting the Brexit Party, can you?

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...ox-ira-stance/

The Labour Party is led by Jeremy Corbyn, who "for seven years running, 1986-92, at the height of the IRA’s “armed struggle,” attended and spoke at official republican commemorations to honour dead IRA terrorists, IRA “prisoners of war” and the active “soldiers of the IRA".

The Labour Party Shadow Chancellor is John ( "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table.) McDonnell.

You wouldn't think many people from the area would be supporting Labour either would you. Wrong, at the last General Election more than 27,000 people voted Labour in Warrington.

[sinkov]

Troughers.

"The Lib Dems caused a stir in David Cameron’s backyard by taking control of Cotswold District Council from the Tories for the first time ever in the local elections. Pretty much their first act after taking control was to give themselves a massive 11% pay rise, increasing their basic allowance by £1,000 each. Snouts in the trough from day one…
The Lib Dems’ rallying cry for the elections was “you deserve better!” Turns out the only people they meant were themselves…"

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The Labour Party is led by Jeremy Corbyn, who "for seven years running, 1986-92, at the height of the IRA’s “armed struggle,” attended and spoke at official republican commemorations to honour dead IRA terrorists, IRA “prisoners of war” and the active “soldiers of the IRA".

The Labour Party Shadow Chancellor is John ( "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table.) McDonnell.

You wouldn't think many people from the area would be supporting Labour either would you. Wrong, at the last General Election more than 27,000 people voted Labour in Warrington.

I can't be 100% certain sinkov, but I think it was in 1987 and I had a husband and wife over from Vancouver to purchase some equipment we had on site in Belfast.

We flew over for the day from Manchester. The main shopping centre was gated off with RUC and British soldiers on a security checkpoint, the Falls Road was full of armed Saracens and Highlander squaddies running about fully armed in twos with their plumes in their caps.

It had never occurred to me before, but "Mrs Vancouver" said she had not realised the Irish were suffering from armed occupation of their Emerald Isle. A different perspective from an innocent bystander certainly reminded me just what an imperialistic set of colonial scumbags the British establishment really was and still is.

[sinkov]

I can't be 100% certain sinkov, but I think it was in 1987 and I had a husband and wife over from Vancouver to purchase some equipment we had on site in Belfast.

We flew over for the day from Manchester. The main shopping centre was gated off with RUC and British soldiers on a security checkpoint, the Falls Road was full of armed Saracens and Highlander squaddies running about fully armed in twos with their plumes in their caps.

It had never occurred to me before, but "Mrs Vancouver" said she had not realised the Irish were suffering from armed occupation of their Emerald Isle. A different perspective from an innocent bystander certainly reminded me just what an imperialistic set of colonial scumbags the British establishment really was and still is.

Except our lads were there at the specific request of the democratically elected government of Northern Ireland to assist with the deteriorating security situation. The Catholic/Republican community also welcomed their arrival. The government in Ulster weren't best pleased when they eventually left either.

[savannahclaret]

Sinkov,

I don't claim to know what 17.4 million people were thinking when they voted 'Leave'. Not least because I'm 3,000+ miles away and haven't been in Britain since summer 2017! What I do claim, however, as a Lib Dem, is that they made the wrong decision at the polls. I respect their right to be wrong, but I do feel that Brexit will continue to soften, not because of some 'remain' conspiracy to betray the 'democratic will' of the 'vote, once, once only, and never get to change your mind brigade', but because leaving the EU is economically crazy. Sometimes when people are told that something is foolish, 'project fear', they do go ahead and do it -- often as a two finger-gesture. As they have a right to be wrong, they have to accept responsibility for their political actions -- not something I've noticed Farage or B.J. the clown are renown for. I'm 'safe' in Trump's dream-land. There's more scope for stupid over here: it's a bigger country, with a constitutional (god knows it, but Trump doesn't), and more diversity of all kinds. Good luck to all resident Brits.

[savannahclaret]

If all politicians are corrupt, who exactly do you want to run the country, Sinkov?