Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by TipperaryBaggie
I’m actually glad you asked...
I've copied this from a political analyst who's name escapes me, but its all verifiable..
"Cast your mind back to before the referendum, the 2015 referendum act set in motion the referendum - it was only possible to vote to remain a member or to stop being a member.
The act showed possible models for the United Kingdom outside the European Union which made it clear the government would review the different models and seek an agreement to achieve the best possible advantage for the country.
Then, in a leaflet sent to every house in the country, the government stated that if there was a vote to leave they would need to renegotiate new arrangements with the EU.
Now, in terms of the debate, we were told that free and open trade with Europe was what the Eurosceptics had “always wanted” That a free trade agreement that continued to give access to UK goods and services with the European Union was “what it was all about”. (Boris Johnson)
That if we left, we would sign new trade deals, and yes, one of the free trade deals would be with Europe. (David Davies)
That a vote to leave would be a vote to leave the European Union and the Single Market and we would ‘have’ to negotiate a trade deal with them. (David Cameron)
That we would carry on trading tariff free, without any tariffs, with the European Union. (Ian Duncan Smith)
We would have 'full access' to the Single Market but be free from the regulation (Michael Gove)
That maintaining access to the European Markets, and increasing access to markets around the world, was really “much of the argument for Leave”. (David Davies, again)
That it would be a better deal than the one Britain has at the moment and we could decide the terms when we left (Michael Gove, again)
And we would do a deal that will suit Northern Ireland and the Republic (Kate Hoey)
That negotiating a free trade agreement with the EU would be as easy as we want it to be. (Andrea Leadsom)
That Article 50 would prevent the economic shock of the UK crashing out (Jacob Rees-Mogg)
That we would not work under WTO rules (Michael Gove, again)
That the worst case scenario is we don’t get a tariff free deal (Good Old Nigel Farage)"
You are right, you have to cut through the bullsh1t and work out which side is being genuine.
As a remainer, I understood the leave vote to mean we would leave the SM and CU, and renegotiate a deal with the EU as laid out above. And that is exactly what Theresa May's deal does...
‘No Deal’ truly has been engineered by the clever, but deceitful Leave campaign. As an idea that it was what 17m people all voted for at the time of the referendum. Please be genuinely honest, looking at the above, would you say everyone who voted in the referendum to leave, voted for a ‘No Deal’ Brexit?
'No Deal' wasn't ever an option on the voting paper, it was barely discussed before the referendum, and it was swatted out of hand by leave supporting politicians who said we would negotiate a deal with the EU with far better terms that what we currently had, going as far to say we could cherry pick what we wanted.
Anyway, everyone on this board has a right to their view and their vote. Choose wisely...
