8 clues which suggest Rafa Benitez will stay on as Newcastle manager

[Jammy89]

So this is the 8 clues the chronicle have that makes them think Rafa will stay:

1. There was no big, emotional goodbye – either at St James’ or Craven Cottage.
2. A willingness to compromise – and his ‘positive` mindset ahead of talks.
3. The careful manner in which Benitez made sure not to say anything which could potentially jeopardise the meeting.
4. A lack of obvious alternatives for Benitez in the Premier League.
5. A nod to the future with Academy graduates on the bench.
6. Pre-season is already planned – and Benitez is accommodating China into that.
7. Transfer targets have already been identified, and some players told they can go.
8. Ashley’s smiles – and the owner’s return to the United scene.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...nitez-16267611 - the link if you want to read their reasonings.

Despite all this and I really hope i'm wrong. I still sadly think he's off as regardless Ashley won't compromise at his end enough.

[toptoon]

To answer this you´d have to know Ashley´s mind at the moment. I don´t think even the tea boy knows that. We can but speculate and I´ll stick with my (very wobbly) opinion that he will stay. (Ever the optimist).

[Zippity]

They're all valid points but...I think I'm with you, Jammy. Unlike Rafa-who has publicly said he will compromise -I can't see Ashley doing the same.

[ex_pat_magpie]

To answer this you´d have to know Ashley´s mind at the moment. I don´t think even the tea boy knows that. We can but speculate and I´ll stick with my (very wobbly) opinion that he will stay. (Ever the optimist).

I don't think Ashley knows Ashley's mind let alone the tea boy.

[ghostrider]

I don't see many clubs queueing up for Rafa.

[toptoon]

I don't see many clubs queueing up for Rafa.

Now bookies favourite to be Celtic´s next manager ahead of Lennon. Several clubs in China have enquired too.

[usedtobeshearer]

Now bookies favourite to be Celtic´s next manager ahead of Lennon. Several clubs in China have enquired too.

Rafa will be well sort after of that there is no doubt.

[usedtobeshearer]

Now bookies favourite to be Celtic´s next manager ahead of Lennon. Several clubs in China have enquired too.

I don't see many clubs queueing up for Rafa.

You've said many a time you think another manager would do better despite the logic and mass opinion citing otherwise...that's your way, fair enough.

I currently live in Battersea and I am surrounded by Chelsea supporters. They didn't like Rafa when they had him, but this was down to comments he made when he was Liverpool manager. They now understand and thank him for winning them a trophy.

You can talk to any other supporters...they think Rafa is an excellent manager.

Except for the Mackems...they think he is rubbish...but can't wait for him to leave! What does that tell you?

I know, I know...you like to think outside the box and everyone else can be wrong at the same time....

[ghostrider]

Now bookies favourite to be Celtic´s next manager ahead of Lennon. Several clubs in China have enquired too.

Let's be honest, any manager, just about, can manage Celtic, or Rangers for that matter, because there's little competition.
Rafa would be nuts to take that job, because there's little reward in it and expectation is through the roof, for obvious reasons.

As For China. He chose to come back to England because his family is rooted in the Wirral.
There's also no joy in winning anything in China, although the money would be exceptional, which is why a lot of players have jumped ship. It's bad for the health but great for the bank balance.

His best bet is to sign the contract offered to him because it's not as if he isn't wised up to how the system works at Newcastle. And like I said, he won't be afforded the idolisation of a decent portion of fans for mid table to below achievements, regardless of the bemoaning of buys with no big fees.
He has the chance to add more quality to what's building up to be a decent nucleus of a squad.

[ghostrider]

You've said many a time you think another manager would do better despite the logic and mass opinion citing otherwise...that's your way, fair enough.

Logic and mass opinion don't mutually go together.
Mass opinion can be borne out of a simple following of a narrative, not necessarily based on logic.

By my reckoning I don't see anything Rafa has done that many a manager couldn't have done at this club on the money Rafa's had.
Many could easily fail but I don't see anything special. I really don't.
Having said that, I also believe Rafa can do better with whatever money he gets this season, whether it's cash on the hip or cash generated by player sales, if he signs on, by adding to (clearly) the influx of players that have shown their quality this season.

In my absolute honest opinion I think far too much smoke has been blown firmly up his aris by too many pundits who seem to live on some kind of emotional historical adherence to him, as well as a fair few fans.

I currently live in Battersea and I am surrounded by Chelsea supporters. They didn't like Rafa when they had him, but this was down to comments he made when he was Liverpool manager. They now understand and thank him for winning them a trophy.

They hated his football (apparently) regardless of comments whilst at Liverpool.
I generally hated his football but his football of late has been acceptable without being overly entertaining.

You can talk to any other supporters...they think Rafa is an excellent manager.

It all comes down to perception. Many fans will see him as negative. I think that goes for many footballers, too.
One man's junk is another man's treasure, kind of thing.
Not that I think Rafa is junk, but he's certainly not my treasure any more than Alan Pardew was or Chris Hughton.
That's why I used Pardew as a yardstick against Rafa, because, pound for pound I'd say Pardew out flanks Rafa...for us (Newcastle United only), yet Pardew was crucified for all kinds of reasonings/excuses and Rafa gets (almost) a free ride to the point of messiah status and mild calls for freedom of the city, by some, to statue mentions by others. It beggars belief for me but I do understand it in a way, due to us not having anything or anyone to give us some kind of pedestal/status, which Rafa sort of artificially (in my mind) provides for them.

Except for the Mackems...they think he is rubbish...but can't wait for him to leave! What does that tell you?

The Mackems will like or hate anything to do with newcastle depending on whether bad things happen or good things, just as Newcastle fans do with the Mackems...so using any of it as any yardstick, is pointless. It's simply par for the course.

I know, I know...you like to think outside the box and everyone else can be wrong at the same time....

I do like to think outside of the box. I sometimes play Devil's advocate. But the main thing for me is very simple. I have my own opinions based on how I see stuff and refuse to follow mass opinion if I genuinely believe something doesn't fit.
I have absolutely no qualms about nodding to any post or any physical conversation if I believe it fits.

Mass opinion does not give correct answers as a legitimate rule, it simply mentally rubber stamps a perceived reality of something that appears to fit a story narrative which gains traction and becomes a truth to those masses, to the point where any minority thought on the potential alternatives to that story renders that minority as outcasts or merely drowned out by mass crowding/voice.