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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by bridpie78 View Post
    There is method in the madness of developing your own players, take a look at exeter and mansfield, both have been up there in league 2 for a few years now,mansfield have chucked money at the promotion problem while exeter have developed youngsters,exposed them to the first team and sold them on at a profit to bigger clubs, they are really a model of what most lower league clubs should aspire to be, sustainable and although they haven't had that promotion yet they are an entertaining team that is never in any danger of falling away into NL or going into debt/admin

    getting a good side together to try to win the NL is all well and good but what about next season and the season after, we don't want to go back up just to return to the same old story of buying old timers who we hope still have some gas in their tanks and hoping for the best and ending up fighting relegation because we picked the wrong ones.

    its about balance you don't just take on loads of youngsters and hope that for every 50 you get 1 future star, one of our big problem areas is scouting and recruiting.
    I don’t disagree. The problem is and continues to be that we can’t attract good young players to us because they have Forest, Derby and Leicester on there door step.... Exeter have who?
    It’s a bit like the chicken and the egg. We want good young players playing some first team games before being sold. The young players we have had are generally not good enough. So how do you attract talent? We have no real history of putting them in the first team. No history of developing players. The players we have we tend to inherit from other clubs.
    Until we commit completely to developing players with a view to them playing first team football it’s a pointless and expensive exercise.

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    Of the released I'd only want O'Brien and Milsom. Of the retained you couldn't actually put out a team that would challenge in the Unibond league.
    It's an utter mess and the only thing that list really shows is how bad last season's team was with hindsight. I can't make a strong eleven out the whole lot.
    Most badly put together unbalanced overpaid squad ever. Ardley is the least of our worries, that lot were for the most part garbage for three managers all year.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notts78 View Post
    I don’t disagree. The problem is and continues to be that we can’t attract good young players to us because they have Forest, Derby and Leicester on there door step.... Exeter have who?
    It’s a bit like the chicken and the egg. We want good young players playing some first team games before being sold. The young players we have had are generally not good enough. So how do you attract talent? We have no real history of putting them in the first team. No history of developing players. The players we have we tend to inherit from other clubs.
    Until we commit completely to developing players with a view to them playing first team football it’s a pointless and expensive exercise.
    You can attract young players by offering them opportunities in the first team which they just wouldn't get at florist,leicester derby etc,there has to be youngsters out there who are talented and want to play first team football to showcase their skills

    now would be the perfect time to start a history of raising our own,this is our fresh start opportunity,personally i don't think it will happen but i do think it would be a way forward so we don't end up repeating the same mistakes

    I dont know all the financial ins and outs but i would say it would be no more expensive than taking a punt on has been players every season like vaughan and the many others who have stolen a living off our club and paying them ridiculous wages and giving them contracts well beyond their expiry date

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    Quote Originally Posted by GranthamPie View Post
    I'd be amazed if many of the players, certainly the likes of Hemmings, Enzio, Rose etc, don't have release clauses written into their contracts, in the event that Notts are relegated. I can see many more walking out the door.
    If Enzio hasn't got that clause, let's hope it's not too late. I can borrow Notts some Tipex.
    Last edited by SwalePie; 17-05-2019 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navypie View Post
    If Enzio hasn't got that clause, let's hope it's not too late. I can borrow Notts some Tipex.
    and if he can't find the door we could all go down and show him where it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridpie78 View Post
    and if he can't find the door we could all go down and show him where it is
    You wanna be careful bridpie, you might have Delroywhatshisface accusing you of all sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navypie View Post
    You wanna be careful bridpie, you might have Delroywhatshisface accusing you of all sorts.
    bothered

    its nothing personal, some of my best friends are sh*t at football
    Last edited by bridpie78; 17-05-2019 at 05:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridpie78 View Post
    bothered

    its nothing personal, some of my best friends are sh*t at football
    Perfect reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagpieMike View Post
    Okay, hard hat on.

    I think Ardley did well in the January window with limited means. I'd like to see him assemble his own squad with proper backing from new owners. I'd expect him to offload some of the contracted players. I'd like to see a properly fit Dennis, and the pre injury Enzio. Of the out of contract players I'd like O'Brien, Milsom and Hewitt back. I know Hewitt hasn't been playing and isnt everyone's cup of tea, but hes a useful utility player. We clearly need a target man up front, a new defence and a goalkeeper. Schofield on a permanent contract or season long loan?

    Previous players I'd like back, Gary Liddle would be an excellent addition to the defence, we also need a dead ball specialist. Sheehan anyone?
    I can't find one thing about this post that I don't agree with.... Liddle and Sheehan would be unreal signings for a now non league club... Liddle is a possibility but doubt Sheehan would drop down so far but we can only dream... If Ardley is taking the reigns and building a team lets hope he has learned some lessons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridpie78 View Post
    bothered

    its nothing personal, some of my best friends are sh*t at football
    I know mate but ****tyfacey ( sorry driller , just cud un help me-sen) insists there is something far more sinister in our criticism of our non flying Dutch winger.

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