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    Understudy/coach

    A lot of chat about having an experienced coach and a young understudy to move into the hot seat when the manager moves.

    Only thing I don't like about this is when the manager invariably gets sacked the number 2 either goes with him in solidarity or is seen as part of the team that's the problem in the 1st place and is punted as well.

    The chances of the manager being a roaring success is slim and if he was a success may want to take the number 2 with him to pastures new.

    Take Boyle for instance he must be regretting being persuaded to become McIntyres number 2, seen as part of the problem when he was probably well liked and respected for doing his original job with the Dee.

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    Always wondered this as well ,without knowing the pairs working demographic was the manager calling the shots or the assistant ,an example would be surely Archie Knox being No2 with Fergie I don't think for one minute he wouldn't pull him up if he thought he was wrong ,cut from the same cloth in a way ,probably didn't listen though...

    Feel for Boyle caught up in a ****fest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    Always wondered this as well ,without knowing the pairs working demographic was the manager calling the shots or the assistant ,an example would be surely Archie Knox being No2 with Fergie I don't think for one minute he wouldn't pull him up if he thought he was wrong ,cut from the same cloth in a way ,probably didn't listen though...

    Feel for Boyle caught up in a ****fest...
    All managers say they don't want yes men but it does make me laugh that.....in an industry where people like their initials on their gear and to be called "boss or gaffer" I think a huge percentage do want yes men or their mates.

    Not many assistants over the years who were famed for being great assistants.

    Peter Taylor with Clough, Archie Knox with fergie and Smith, Miller with Liverpool, jocky Scott under Archie.

    Was it Frank Upton who helped Donald McKay in the beginning? Em hopeless we names.

    I'm assuming Bob Paisley was originally Shanklys understudy.

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    There's even Jim McLean apart from Walter Smith em struggling to name any of his assistants....Kirkwood? Sturrock?....cannae mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    A lot of chat about having an experienced coach and a young understudy to move into the hot seat when the manager moves.

    Only thing I don't like about this is when the manager invariably gets sacked the number 2 either goes with him in solidarity or is seen as part of the team that's the problem in the 1st place and is punted as well.

    The chances of the manager being a roaring success is slim and if he was a success may want to take the number 2 with him to pastures new.

    Take Boyle for instance he must be regretting being persuaded to become McIntyres number 2, seen as part of the problem when he was probably well liked and respected for doing his original job with the Dee.
    His saving grace is at least hes not billy dodds

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmac View Post
    His saving grace is at least hes not billy dodds
    Even Beelzebub himself is happy he's not Billy Dodds....or so em telt.

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    Only someone like John Nelms wouldn't see that Boyle wasn't brought in by McIntyre so shouldn't have fallen on the same sword. Maybe his original job was no longer available, but the distinction should have been made. It's not like Boyle had any say in what that dab prick was doing to the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    Only someone like John Nelms wouldn't see that Boyle wasn't brought in by McIntyre so shouldn't have fallen on the same sword. Maybe his original job was no longer available, but the distinction should have been made. It's not like Boyle had any say in what that dab prick was doing to the club
    How do you know that?...if he had no say what was the point of him being there...we didn't need a yes man especially to that useless c@nt...so we're well shot of him too

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    Sorry Peter, you backed mcintyre and still doing it, not for me, bud. Think about what's happened, Woods binned, Cammy captain, McIntyre refused to play young Robertson, you're needing to let go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    Sorry Peter, you backed mcintyre and still doing it, not for me, bud. Think about what's happened, Woods binned, Cammy captain, McIntyre refused to play young Robertson, you're needing to let go
    Never backed McIntyre... just saying we're well shot of him and Boyle...no sure what you're on about

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    Boyle took the shilling offered when big ears was told the door was shut, have never met the guy, but remember him and his hammer throwing mates when he played, heard from a good Dee a few years back whose son was part of youth set up that he was a bully, not sour grapes as his son was getting a game at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermackie View Post
    Never backed McIntyre... just saying we're well shot of him and Boyle...no sure what you're on about
    ok fine, but my recollection is different, you backed him. We now can all agree that McIntyre has done what he set out to do. And Dundee fans supported him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    ok fine, but my recollection is different, you backed him. We now can all agree that McIntyre has done what he set out to do. And Dundee fans supported him
    Your recollection is wrong...still not sure what you were on about when I said we were well shot of Boyle and that useless c@nt McIntyre...you somehow manage to read that as I back McIntyre and still am...I take it you've been on the drink since the match finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermackie View Post
    Your recollection is wrong...still not sure what you were on about when I said we were well shot of Boyle and that useless c@nt McIntyre...you somehow manage to read that as I back McIntyre and still am...I take it you've been on the drink since the match finished
    Unfortunately Taintedice's 'truth' is often far removed from any known fact or common sense. Once it's mind is made up there is no changing it either.

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    Deeranged, you are an ultimate hater of Dundee Football Club, can't believe you are allowed to post on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermackie View Post
    Your recollection is wrong...still not sure what you were on about when I said we were well shot of Boyle and that useless c@nt McIntyre...you somehow manage to read that as I back McIntyre and still am...I take it you've been on the drink since the match finished
    you backed McIntyre, end of. At least it's about your bad backing, the guy deeranged, scumbag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Unfortunately Taintedice's 'truth' is often far removed from any known fact or common sense. Once it's mind is made up there is no changing it either.
    complete hatred from you you mug, shaded needs to ban you, said that already. "it's" haha you are a mug, mate

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    Deeranged, 250k stolen from the club, you are responsible
    Last edited by Taintedice; 21-05-2019 at 12:19 AM.

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    I'm sorry but this guy deeranged was part and parcel of the dfcss arranged theft of 200 HUNDRED THOUSAND pounds from our club and hes attacking me. A bigger scumbag you'll never see

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    I'll accept my ban, the poster deeranged, absolutely a hater of our club, crack on mate, you wanted us relagated, well done.

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