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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    You can see where BT is coming from on this issue Balan,

    "Equality and Human Rights Commission launch formal investigation into Labour Party anti-Semitism"

    Down in the gutter with the BNP, why any decent person wants to be involved with such an organisation beats me.
    The PC Brigade alias the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
    The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is a toothless, humourless, some would say useless non-departmental public body operating in England and Wales, established by the Equality Act 2006 with effect from 1 October 2007.
    The Commission has responsibility for the promotion and enforcement of equality and non-discrimination laws in England and Wales. It took over the responsibilities of the Commission for Racial Equality, the Equal Opportunities Commission and the Disability Rights Commission.
    It also has responsibility for other aspects of equality law: age, sexual orientation and religion or belief. A national human rights institution, it seeks to promote and protect human rights in England and Wales. It has garnered a well-earned reputation for pandering to the right-wing media and the Politically Correct Brigade,
    Scotland does not share the enthusiasm for this toothless tiger and have gone about setting up their own Equality and Human Rights Commission in Scotland.
    Taking a leaf right out of the Labour Party’s handbook, the Scots aspire to work to eliminate discrimination, reduce inequality, protect and promote human rights, build good relations between people and ensure that everyone has a fair chance to participate in society.
    It has however failed spectacularly as anyone who has recently witnessed an “Old Firm” derby in Glasgow or attended a Hearts of Midlothian versus Hibernian football game in Edinburgh will happily tell you.
    Hopping straight on the “Let’s cry anti-Semitism bandwagon” are our favourite two Jewish Panto Dames, Labour MP Margaret Hodge and serial political party jumper Luciana Berger who have already tried and executed Jeremy Corbyn on at least god knows how many other previous occasions.
    This spurious, “anti-Semitic is rife in the Labour Party” nonsense was instigated by a jumped up, overly privileged hooray Henry Witchfinder General named Gideon Falter. This self-righteous busybody also happens to be perhaps not by chance ,the Chief Executive of the Campaign Against Antisemitism.
    Falter is also purportedly the Chairman of the ultra-Zionist Jewish National Fund, you guessed it, that’s the one that promotes the rights of Jews to steal Palestinian land.
    Falter leaves no stone unturned in his zeal to find anti-Semitism at every corner. In the summer of 2014 Falter helped to establish the afore-mentioned Campaign Against Antisemitism UK. He quickly recruited his Jewish buddy Jonathan Sacerdoti, a British journalist who resides in the United Kingdom.
    Sacerdoti covers stories relating to the UK and Europe, in addition to commenting on terrorism and extremism, he also attempts to analyse what’s breaking in the Middle East. He is also an avid anti-Semitism campaigner.
    Sacerdoti and Falter once together, quickly conceived one of Baldrick’s most cunning plans to call for “zero tolerance enforcement of existing laws against anti-Semitism by the police.” Falter also claims the Israeli Defence Force is “held to impossibly high standards” in response to the Israelis using unharmed Palestinians for target practice.
    Finally let us not forget the EHRC was originally inspired by the legend in his own lunchbox Mark Trevor Phillips. Phillips famously moaned it would be impossible for a black candidate in the United Kingdom to rise to the top in politics because of institutional racism within the Labour Party.
    Do we really need to say any more?

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    BT : ''I will never understand your position on this in a hundred years !!'

    Reality says,as you pointed out ,''Over 80% of people living in Gaza need humanitarian assistance and over one million people rely on emergency food assistance as their main source of food.''

    After all the donations come in to them ,from all over the world ,its clear the Hamas leadership cares phoock all about its people, shoite all, in fact, plus they do nothing to advance the poverty situation, (if there is poverty !), therefore your wads of cash only go to help their war effort and delays any peace agreement in the future.

    Latest:
    Islamic Jihad leader Ziad Nahala told Hezbollah's al-Manar TV that Palestinian factions in Gaza can launch a thousand rockets a day at Israel for a full month. He also revealed that they have half-ton warheads.
    So please send your money to those 'hardpressed Palestinians'.

    Listen to a very wise Golda Meir speaking about the Palestinian identity. ( from 1970 ).

    https://youtu.be/I9M91iwP994

    ''The quarrel with the Arabs is not over a piece of land, its not for territory,it's not for anything concrete,they just refuse to believe that we have the right to exist at all''. ( Golda Meir ).
    Some of us will always support the underdog Balan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Some of us will always support the underdog Balan...

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    Exactly BT, which is why I have always admired and supported the Jewish state of Israel, which continues to display admirable tolerance and patience in dealing with the military aggression of it's hostile neighbours.

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    Here's a living example of admirable tolerance and patience as Palestinian women cross the border to find work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Here's a living example of admirable tolerance and patience as Palestinian women cross the border to find work...
    Crossing the border to find work are they BT ? Well some poster called The Bedlington Terrier said this on Post 38,

    "Most of the Gaza residents are barred from leaving Gaza in search of employment, as a consequence the destitute Palestine refugees must rely on support from foreign aid to meet their daily needs."

    Better have a word with BT BT, one of you is lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Crossing the border to find work are they BT ? Well some poster called The Bedlington Terrier said this on Post 38,

    "Most of the Gaza residents are barred from leaving Gaza in search of employment, as a consequence the destitute Palestine refugees must rely on support from foreign aid to meet their daily needs."

    Better have a word with BT BT, one of you is lying.
    The key word there is "Most" Sinkov.

    Please read more carefully before you call people liars.

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    The Israelis call these "Occupation Checkpoints" sinkov. Can you notice the absence of men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    The key word there is "Most" Sinkov.

    Please read more carefully before you call people liars.
    I read it very carefully BT, I noticed your little get out word 'most'.

    So how many are 'most', how many are allowed out to search for work ? How many are not allowed out to search for work ? How do the Israelis differentiate and make a decision ? Where do they go in this search for work ? How many and what sort of work is available ? How many are successful in finding work ? At which border crossing was that photo taken and on what date ?

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    Finding work! If the P A authorities did invest in work places for its own people ,then no need to enter Israel for work! Do you understand why they are searched? I hope you read B T.

    Yesterday: IDF soldiers arrested a Palestinian in Hebron, the IDF Spokesperson's Unit said Saturday morning. A search revealed the suspect was carrying a knife in his clothes. He was transferred for further investigation by the police. A 19-year-old Palestinian Hebron resident was arrested in similar circumstances on Friday. The suspect attempted to enter the Cave of the Patriarchs, a holy site to both Jews and Muslims, with a knife concealed in his sleeve.

    Friday also saw a bloody attack in Jerusalem, which left a 47-year-old man fighting for his life and a 16-year-old boy moderately-to-seriously wounded. A "terrorist stabbed one person at Damascus Gate, critically injuring him, and made his way into the Old City and stabbed a second person inside injuring him moderately,"

    The 2018 quota for Palestinian workers was set at 95,000. In practice, 78,000 of these permits were used; of these, some 10,000 are for workers inside the industrial parks in the Occupied Territories, the others for work within the 1967 border.The Israeli Government estimates that over the 40 years since 1978, more than 600,000 Palestinian workers have been employed in Israel

    We allow them to work, and then they stab Israelis. Palestinian workers from the Occupied Territories started entering Israel in the late 1970's,they stabbed farmers ,and today are still killing.

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    "We allow them to work" so did the Nazis in the work camps and forced labour units.

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    We know forced labour means to make them work ! When we allow them to pass into Israel. Nothing about being forced to work here! No forced labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    "We allow them to work" so did the Nazis in the work camps and forced labour units.
    As a member of a party being investigated over it's anti-semitism, that's a rather insensitive remark BT. Have you resigned yet, have you no sense of shame ? Or are you quite content to be an enabler of anti-semitism ? It really is quite astonishing that 70 odd years after the demise of Adolf Hitler, anti-semitism is still flourishing in a mainstream British political party.

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    BT: The post No 42 shows the Dome of the Rock,in Jerusalem,and added are the words , ''Laylat - Al Qadr'',which is transalated as "the divine decree and the predestination"; al-qadr literally means "(divine) power" and derives from the root Q-D-R to measure out.'' Look how they twist 'meanings. ''Be the light for Gaza''

    "the divine decree and the predestination"..........

    In the Koran 5.20 , it is written. When Moses said to his people, '' blah blah blah ....
    ......but most important is the verse 5. 21

    21. “O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned for you, and do not turn back, lest you return as losers.” ( That's Moses speaking to the Israelites)

    Written in their Quran !!!....''the Holy Land which God has assigned for you'' ( the Jews!).

    Do they have a belief ,or follow its scripture, or not???


    https://youtu.be/I9M91iwP994

    ''The quarrel with the Arabs is not over a piece of land, its not for territory,it's not for anything concrete,they just refuse to believe that we have the right to exist at all''. ( Golda Meir ).

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    Balan, do you think that the Palestinians should have a viable area of land for their state?

    Or do you think that all the land is Israeli?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    As a member of a party being investigated over it's anti-semitism, that's a rather insensitive remark BT. Have you resigned yet, have you no sense of shame ? Or are you quite content to be an enabler of anti-semitism ? It really is quite astonishing that 70 odd years after the demise of Adolf Hitler, anti-semitism is still flourishing in a mainstream British political party.
    Nothing insensitive at all sinkov. The Jews of Europe were forced to work by the Nazis. Fact.

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    Sort of sums up the opinion dilemma I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    "We allow them to work" so did the Nazis in the work camps and forced labour units.
    Just adding...

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p19_reparations.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Finding work! If the P A authorities did invest in work places for its own people ,then no need to enter Israel for work! Do you understand why they are searched? I hope you read B T.

    Yesterday: IDF soldiers arrested a Palestinian in Hebron, the IDF Spokesperson's Unit said Saturday morning. A search revealed the suspect was carrying a knife in his clothes. He was transferred for further investigation by the police. A 19-year-old Palestinian Hebron resident was arrested in similar circumstances on Friday. The suspect attempted to enter the Cave of the Patriarchs, a holy site to both Jews and Muslims, with a knife concealed in his sleeve.

    Friday also saw a bloody attack in Jerusalem, which left a 47-year-old man fighting for his life and a 16-year-old boy moderately-to-seriously wounded. A "terrorist stabbed one person at Damascus Gate, critically injuring him, and made his way into the Old City and stabbed a second person inside injuring him moderately,"

    The 2018 quota for Palestinian workers was set at 95,000. In practice, 78,000 of these permits were used; of these, some 10,000 are for workers inside the industrial parks in the Occupied Territories, the others for work within the 1967 border.The Israeli Government estimates that over the 40 years since 1978, more than 600,000 Palestinian workers have been employed in Israel

    We allow them to work, and then they stab Israelis. Palestinian workers from the Occupied Territories started entering Israel in the late 1970's,they stabbed farmers ,and today are still killing.
    Not hard to understand why the Palestinians fight back though is it Balan..

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    Balan, do you think that the Palestinians should have a viable area of land for their state?

    Yes ,of course, and most Israeli's think like that too, but, that they should recognize the State of Israel,with an end to aggression against Israel ,and agree to a recognised boundary. But some of the religious may not think so ,plus those Jews that were expelled from Arab countries,kicked out ,leaving all they had behind them.

    But remember after the 6 day war, Arab leaders meet in Khartoum and agree to "no peace," "no negotiations" and "no recognition" of Israel. (The three No's).
    In Sept ,2005 Israel withdrew from the entire Gaza Strip to the 1967 Green Line, and the eviction of the four settlements in Samaria, was completed. A step to peace? = No!

    They simply do not want to recognize Israel's existence.

    By the way last night 2 rockets were fired from Syria into Israel, Why just 2 rockets ? That's provocation! Why not fire 100 - 200 rockets? Also just 2 rockets, western media do not report it ,no body killed. That's not news . But air raid sirens go off ,parents with their children dash into air raid shelters ,or a special reinforced concrete room.

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    The more I see of this virtue-signalling, Leftie FAKE NEWS, lies and drivel BT, promulgated by useful idiots in the west, the more I feel for the Israelis and the poor buggers in Gaza who have to live with the consequences. Instead of this infantile propaganda, why not try working towards a peaceful resolution to this problem, instead of condemning the Palestinians and their children to a future of permanent conflict with Israel, a battle they will never win, and can only impoverish them further ?

    Is it anti-semitism disguised as anti-zionism that inspires this unswerving support for Hamas and it's methods, an organisation dedicated to the destruction of the Israeli state and the eradication of all Jews from the face of the earth, or is there another reason ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    The more I see of this virtue-signalling, Leftie FAKE NEWS, lies and drivel BT, promulgated by useful idiots in the west, the more I feel for the Israelis and the poor buggers in Gaza who have to live with the consequences. Instead of this infantile propaganda, why not try working towards a peaceful resolution to this problem, instead of condemning the Palestinians and their children to a future of permanent conflict with Israel, a battle they will never win, and can only impoverish them further ?

    Is it anti-semitism disguised as anti-zionism that inspires this unswerving support for Hamas and it's methods, an organisation dedicated to the destruction of the Israeli state and the eradication of all Jews from the face of the earth, or is there another reason ?
    This is Sinkov in his fully condescending, grammar school patronizing superiority, I am holier than thou Sunday mode.

    The Palestinians are being squeezed and bombed out of existence. Pictures and graphics illustrating the suffering of the Palestinians are not "infantile propaganda".

    People who refuse to see the proof of the Human Rights violations the Palestinians are suffering are nearly as bad as the Holocaust Deniers in my book.

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