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    Fascinating story Balan, I assume this soldier is inundated with requests from BBC reporters and Guardian journalists who can't wait to get his story out in the UK ?

    Sorry friend to say it but, he is stationed in the West Bank ,well Judea and Shomron to be precise.Remember those photos of those border gates which B T posted! Well, the press simply can not get through because of the crushing amount of Palestinians pushing to get work.I believe a journalist was almost crushed to death trying,not sure if he was from the Guardian,but since he was not killed, they would not report it

    As you know Israel can not allow an incident like that to happen, otherwise the leftist would have a field day.
    So the border has less Palestinian workers now as you see.Very quiet ,in fact some guards find time to sleep.


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    Various Muslim Clerics explain why they hate the Jews.

    https://youtu.be/5O-qdiZ9Wng

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Various Muslim Clerics explain why they hate the Jews.

    https://youtu.be/5O-qdiZ9Wng
    Must be some mistake there Balan, our media and politicians are constantly telling us Islam is the Religion of Peace. Are you sure those translations are correct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Must be some mistake there Balan, our media and politicians are constantly telling us Islam is the Religion of Peace. Are you sure those translations are correct ?
    Yes. It is hard to believe when St Jezza of wtf is popping in to his local mosque to spout what a wonderful religion of peace Islam is. There are many many peaceful Muslims as we well know but the religion of Muhammad is not a message of peace.

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    Ah Sinkov. you spotted it quickly ,I must say I was busy so I did not pay too much attention. In Israel there is a town called Yehud,it lies near the airport just south east of Tel-Aviv.They are saying Yehud as Yahud, which of course means 'Jews'. The debate is about some leader was born in Yehud. I do not know who translated this I am sure he got the sack! Honest reporting? Its all fake news today!!

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    BT : Please read and then let it sink into you


    By: Daniel Horowitz | December 27, 2016
    The notion that there is any moral equivalence between Jews building homes in their homeland that they won back in a defensive war (after it was illegally occupied by Jordan) and brutal terrorists illegally occupying land that was never given to them, is reprehensible. But first, a brief history lesson …

    The only binding resolution of international law, a resolution which has never been countermanded to this very day, is the July 1922 Mandate for Palestine. Adopted by the League of Nations, that resolution recognized the “historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.” It called for the creation of a Jewish national homeland anywhere west of the Jordan River.

    Once the League of Nations was disbanded and the United Nations formed in its stead, the international community agreed to maintain all agreements and not “alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties.” [Article 80, UN Charter, emphasis added] This provision wasn’t inserted by accident; it was known as “the Jewish People’s clause” at the time it was adopted in 1945 in order to enshrine the 1922 Mandate into international law.

    The Mandate for Palestine adopted by the League of Nations was the last legally binding document delineating regional borders. In Article 5 of the Mandate it explicitly states “The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power.”
    The Palestine Mandate (and Iraq) was given to Britain to serve as a temporary trustee based on the resolution between the four principle Allied Powers in April 1920 at the San Remo Conference in Italy, which was signed by 51 nations. It was at that conference where the world powers adopted the 1917 Balfour Declaration (which originally allocated the eastern part of the Mandate for a Jewish state as well) creating a Jewish state. This same conference that created the Jewish state west of the Jordan River also created Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq as Arab states.

    The legality of the 1922 Mandate was adopted that same year by the U.S. Congress in H.J. Res. 360 and signed by President Warren Harding. The newly created Arab country of Jordan attacked Israel in 1948 seeking to annihilate its inhabitants and illegally occupied Judea and Samaria until 1967. That year, Israel won back the territory originally allocated for a Jewish State as part of the 1922 League of Nations agreement.

    There is no such thing as “’pre-67 borders.” They were merely 1949 armistice lines between Israel and neighboring countries after they launched an illegal war of extermination. It has nothing to do with the notion of a unique Arab “Palestinian” entity west of the Jordan River. There was never any internationally recognized legal sovereign occupying Judea and Samaria from the time the British Empire fell until 1967. Jordan’s occupation of the area west of the Jordan River was never recognized. To the extent there is an Arab Palestinian state it is the modern state of Jordan, which already sucked up 77% of the original Mandate of Palestine allocated for a Jewish State under the first plan of the Balfour Declaration.

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    Walid Al Duheini from Rafah dared to post on Facebook what everybody in Gaza knows very well: That Hamas steals international donations that are sent to Gaza and uses Palestinians as human shields. Walid got murdered after that.

    THERE MUST BE INTERNATIONAL OUTCRY OVER THIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Walid Al Duheini from Rafah dared to post on Facebook what everybody in Gaza knows very well: That Hamas steals international donations that are sent to Gaza and uses Palestinians as human shields. Walid got murdered after that.

    THERE MUST BE INTERNATIONAL OUTCRY OVER THIS.
    I just wonder why Hamas needs to use Palestinians as human shields and why do the IDF shoot them dead?

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    View original Arutz Sheva at:
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/265056

    Israeli lawyer represents 52 Palestinian Arabs who were tortured by the PA at the International Criminal Court.


    It has never been a secret in Israel, nor in the Palestinian areas, how abusive and violent Abbas’ security services have behaved to enforce their laws that prohibit interaction, business wise or culturally, with Jews. It’s their apartheid culture, intimidation and decades of brutal enforcement that has prevented any attempts of coexistence.

    Palestinian opposition to normalization with Israel and Israeli Jews is deeply embedded in old-guard PLO ‘culture’. Even last week, Fatah expelled a mayor from their political party, and sought to punish Palestinian Arabs that were partying with Jews at a wedding.

    The immoral and corrupted characteristics of the Palestinian leadership has for some reason always been ignored by the world. Hopefully, this case presented to the ICC will expose Abbas and his regime as the Nazi-like police state that it is… that doesn’t deserve to rule in any, present or future, Palestinian government.

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    Don't hold your breath Balan, this news will never see the light of day on the BBC in this country, no chance whatsoever, and lefty Guardian readers like 59/60 will live on in blissful ignorance, piling all the problems of the Middle East on Israel's doorstep. What you do about it I've no idea, it isn't even an anti-Israeli faction at the BBC, it's the entire organisation, if you're not pro-Palestinian you won't be working for them.
    Last edited by sinkov; 27-06-2019 at 08:15 AM.

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    It how the dice is thrown and how it lands!

    But we can say in Judea and Samaria its been a usual week, there nothing changes ! A report:

    Weekly Terror report: 20th June -27th June.

    21 Stone throwing's

    21 Fire Bombs

    3 Bombs

    1 Shooting attempt

    5 Arsons

    1133 Terror Attacks ( From the Beginning of 2019 )

    Just a regular week really !!

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    Terror victim censures UK for financing Palestinian’s ‘Pay to Slay’ Jews.


    A British-born Israeli is accusing the UK government of subsidizing a Palestinian terrorist who seriously wounded her and killed her friend in a 2010 attack near Jerusalem.

    Tour guide Kay Wilson was stabbed 13 times and her American friend Kristine Luken was killed in the machete attack by two Palestinian terrorists in the Jerusalem hills in December 2010.

    “They began to attack us. I fought back and managed to stab one of them, but them he pulled out a big knife,” Wilson said in the aftermath of the attack. “I saw Kristine trying to fight back. They held us for nearly a half and hour. I didn’t understand whether they wanted to rape me or mug me.”

    She added: “I saw Kristine murdered before my eyes. She was yelling. I didn’t want it to hurt me. I tried to keep silent. It was tough, because the beatings were hard, but I tried to play dead.”

    Ayad Fatafta and Kifah Ghanimat were convicted in an Israeli court of murder for stabbing Wilson and killing Luken. Fatafta was sentenced to a life term in prison plus 20 years. Ghanimat was sentenced to two life terms and 60 years for killing Luken and for another crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Terror victim censures UK for financing Palestinian’s ‘Pay to Slay’ Jews.


    A British-born Israeli is accusing the UK government of subsidizing a Palestinian terrorist who seriously wounded her and killed her friend in a 2010 attack near Jerusalem.

    Tour guide Kay Wilson was stabbed 13 times and her American friend Kristine Luken was killed in the machete attack by two Palestinian terrorists in the Jerusalem hills in December 2010.

    “They began to attack us. I fought back and managed to stab one of them, but them he pulled out a big knife,” Wilson said in the aftermath of the attack. “I saw Kristine trying to fight back. They held us for nearly a half and hour. I didn’t understand whether they wanted to rape me or mug me.”

    She added: “I saw Kristine murdered before my eyes. She was yelling. I didn’t want it to hurt me. I tried to keep silent. It was tough, because the beatings were hard, but I tried to play dead.”

    Ayad Fatafta and Kifah Ghanimat were convicted in an Israeli court of murder for stabbing Wilson and killing Luken. Fatafta was sentenced to a life term in prison plus 20 years. Ghanimat was sentenced to two life terms and 60 years for killing Luken and for another crime.
    I remember that tragic incident very well. No way on earth could anyone attempt to justify it, but I'm not certain the British government can be held accountable for two Muslim murderous crackpots going on the rampage Balan?

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    The PA's current economic crisis is the result of the PA leadership's own decision to cripple the Palestinian economy - all in order to continue to paying generous salaries to terrorists.

    http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157...-fcNp7B9Bbu_20




    The Palestinian Authority is currently facing a financial crisis. The crisis is self-induced and caused as a direct result of a decision by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas to drag the Palestinian economy into an abyss, in order to preserve the PA's policy of encouraging terror and rewarding terrorists with generous salaries.

    The sole reason for the economic crisis is the refusal of the PA to accept the tax revenues that Israel collects and transfers to the PA. These tax revenues - over 8 billion shekels in 2018 - account for, on average over the last five years, 50% of the PA's annual operating budget.

    The PA is refusing to accept the taxes due to the decision of the Israeli Security Cabinet, taken in February this year after the murder of Ori Ansbacher, to deduct 502 million shekels (in twelve equal deductions each in the sum of approximately 42 million shekels) from them. The amount the government decided to deduct is the amount that the PA publicly admitted that it paid in salaries and various benefits to imprisoned terrorists and released terrorists in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I remember that tragic incident very well. No way on earth could anyone attempt to justify it, but I'm not certain the British government can be held accountable for two Muslim murderous crackpots going on the rampage Balan?
    Given the amount of foreign aid our government shovels their way BT, me and you both will have contributed through our taxes. It makes me ashamed, don't know about you.

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    Given the amount of foreign aid our government shovels their way BT, me and you both will have contributed through our taxes. It makes me ashamed, don't know about you.
    I'm totally ashamed of our government sinkov. They are quite simply not fit for purpose. In the geopolitical context we sell arms to Muslim Arabs to bomb the shoite out of Yemen, yet support the Israeli ghettoization of millions of Palestinians in cahoots with the US, talk about having your cake and eat it?

    We are tabling motions to make the government account for every bloody penny of that 14 billion. They will have to respond, because there will be more than enough signatures to force them to do so.

    You are 100% correct, we are living in a bloody lunatic asylum.

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    Nothing new under the sun BT, you do know they're just carrying on where the last Labour government left off don't you ?


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...reignpolicy.uk

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    Five basic questions!

    1) Why would any company ,individual investor or country invest in a politically unstable environment where all past and present leaders both from Fatah and Hamas.

    2) are kleptocratic, becoming billionaires by overtly embezzeling the majoraty of financial aid donated for the enrichment and stabilization of a future Palestine?

    3) have become autocrats by maintaining a vicious police state and refusing elections to maintain total control of people?

    4) have eliminated Freedom of the press, Freedom of expression,Freedom of religion,Freedom of sexual orientation and Freedom to vote?

    4) have preferred violence over peace,perpetuated indoctrination and incitementto hate Jews, publicly and institutionally sought and paid assassins to kill and maim Jews as its prioritized
    national policy?

    What does it say to the morality of anyonewho would advance any of these situations?

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    Gaza's abandoned children: Palestinians leaving their babies at border.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...medium=organic


    Israel warns of 'unacceptable phenomenon' developing along Gaza frontier that sees parents leave their children with total strangers after undergoing medical treatment, so they themselves can remain in Israel illegally.
    A phenomenon appears to have developed on the border with the Gaza Strip that sees parents of children taken to Israel for medical treatment abandon their off springs in order to remain in the country as illegal residents.

    According to the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), Israeli soldiers find abandoned Gazan children brought to Israel by their parents for medical treatment several times a months. This occurrence began a few months ago is not showing signs of slowing down.

    As recently as two days ago, a four-year-old boy was abandoned by his father at the Erez border crossing in the northern Gaza Strip. The child, who was abandoned after receiving medical treatment in Israel, had been left with a complete stranger on the Gaza side of the border, while his father chose to remain illegally on Israeli territory.

    "The parent who was supposed to accompany his child and provide him with a sense of security chose to remain in Israel as an illegal resident and send his child back to Gaza alone, without any familiar faces leading him home," COGAT said.

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    Dozens of fires have been documented in the Israeli communities bordering the Gaza Strip in recent weeks. The IDF has refrained from responding, and its current policy is to contain the situation.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...538047,00.html


    Meanwhile, 25 fires started in these communities on Thursday, and an incendiary balloon even landed on the doorstep of a house in Eshkol Regional Council. There were no casualties.

    "The situation is unbearable, there is a daily war going on and the State of Israel is silent," said Itai Pachter of Kibbutz Kfar Aza. "The residents of the Gaza border area are prisoners in a security situation from which there is no escape."

    "For more than a year we have been living with the terrorism of the fires and the situation is very frustrating. People are already indifferent to the situation. It will not end well."

    "From the point of view of the State of Israel, balloon terrorism is not a strategic threat and therefore policy is one of containment,"

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