the 15 seniors

[klix]

Cibicki didnt get a proper start, and clearly has the skills, Saiz? dunno.
im a realist Clive, fair play rules mean we cant spend big, for the first time in years we have a coach whom we can trust, and if he thinks HE can do without one or two of our better players in order to bring in who HE wants, im in. Just waiting for the negheads to get all bent out of shape if we sell someone (despite this being an integeral part of the game), but i think everyone at the top table at E.R for once are pulling in the same direction, have the same goals, and might just be canny enough to pull it off.

Cibicki didnt get a proper start
Clearly you have not seen him
He is total ****e

[klix]

Why sell any of them? Bamford I'd rather see what he can do with a fully fit season. Dallas showed exactly what he is capable of in the playoffs and Forshaw has been good. Casilla up until the two errors had some great games and some excellent saves + Berardi is useful squad player.

I will tell you what Bamford will do in a so called fully fit season
Absolute nothing the lad has no hunger and has had it to easy he is just like that other carthorse released by west ham andy carrol another ****er

[klix]

Snap, still keep going back to the Wigan game and beyond and think what could and should have been, thinking about seeing Leeds v Wigan, Brentford, Millwall etc again makes me sick.

Fkin hell that wigan game its like a nightmare Black Friday

[denver11]

Heard this morning that it was on Twitter that Jack Harrison might be our first signing.. really,really hope not. WTF??

[asturianblanco]

Cibicki didnt get a proper start
Clearly you have not seen him
He is total ****e

interesting the stats for games he played in, take a look, for me, one of those situations where i felt other players were not on his wavelength. i thought Phillips was shighte, some said Klitch was shighte, look what Beilsa did for them.Each to their own opinion i guess, merely stating that of those mentioned, i think hes worth another look.

[Rev72]

I still haven't recovered enough from the playoffs to even contemplate next season as yet. They say time heals though....

Yes..the Rev is still a bit 'touche' about the..can't even say it.

[Rev72]

interesting the stats for games he played in, take a look, for me, one of those situations where i felt other players were not on his wavelength. i thought Phillips was shighte, some said Klitch was shighte, look what Beilsa did for them.Each to their own opinion i guess, merely stating that of those mentioned, i think hes worth another look.

Bielsa was brought in to polish the turds last season and he sure did that..can he polish a few more..I think he can but he may not have much choice as well.

[OldWhiteTaff]

Bielsa was brought in to polish the turds last season and he sure did that..can he polish a few more..I think he can but he may not have much choice as well.

I think he identified which of the turds he believed he could polish before the start of last season, so it seems unlikely to me he'll now change his mind (he doesn't really do changing his mind.......). But how many of them we'll actually be able to sell is debatable (I'd suspect not very many), so my guess is most of those who weren't involved last season won't be involved again and will be off on loan. The only two who seem to have really pushed on whilst on loan last season were Wilks and Ekuban, so I suppose there's a remote possibility Bielsa might give them a 2nd look, but I doubt it.

It's going to be loan players in rather than buys, and that's where we must do better this year (Harrison, Baker, Brown, Blackman FFS!!!). If we could find two/three who can contribute at a Wilson / Mount / Tomori / Abrahams / Gayle / Adarabouyo / Tuanzebe / Colback / Holgate / Reece James kind of level then that would make a huge difference straight off. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if a good few of those players will be available again, and given how much more attractive a proposition we will be this coming season, we've as good a shout as anyone to attract them (although even with loan signings we're not likely to be able to dine at the top table due to wage demands.......)

[fredlufc74]

I have to agree with WTF on this FTW.

Clubs will know we want most of them players listed (the loan players) off the wage bill, I really can't see any decent offers coming in for 80% of them.

Most of the players that have been listed out on loan haven't really shone. Take a look at Siaz, don't think we are even going to get the 3 million we paid for him back.

[LeedsFTW]

I have to agree with WTF on this FTW.

Clubs will know we want most of them players listed (the loan players) off the wage bill, I really can't see any decent offers coming in for 80% of them.

Most of the players that have been listed out on loan haven't really shone. Take a look at Siaz, don't think we are even going to get the 3 million we paid for him back.

Yeah it probably the way things will work, but there are some players in the list that we should be looking for 7 figures for. Saiz, Pearce, Cibicki, Wilks, Shaugnessy, - Ekuban is going for £2 million... If we get rid of the rest for £500,000 on average, I do think we can bring in between £10-15 million.

I genuinely dont think the club will let Saiz leave for less than £3 million.