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  1. #21
    Davy500 you astonish me. I and most recent followers of Notts County really care. The man conned hundreds of pensioners out of their hard earned money including people who fought in the war so we may have a free and decent life. So I for one really care and will not be pouring a penny of my money into the hands of a common disgusting crook and his cohorts. Think carefully My Hardy, your reputation is in pieces, what you do next will define your future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    It isn't similar at all, the conviction for a carefully planned fraud suggests these people are likely to commit fraud again. How would that contribute in any way to their ability to successfully run Notts as a football club?

    Hughes, on the other hand, committed an unplanned offence. Maybe he's more likely to do something like that again than most, but it didn't impact on his ability to play football.

    OK, the moral point I grant you, but there is something despicable about robbing from pensioners.
    Unplanned? He got into a car after being on the piss all night, smashed into another car, killing or seriously injuring 2 of the occupants, and then ran away and hid, hoping not to be found until he sobered up. This is with already having a previous conviction for drunk driving.

    This guy is a convicted fraudster, but you’re doing some serious mental gymnastics if you think he’s less suited to be at the club than Lee Hughes. I’m saying I wouldn’t stay away from games because he’s a fraudster, I’m saying I would stay away if he and his group put a crap football team on the pitch. And history suggests most football fans, either consciously or unconsciously, feel the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSANHO View Post
    I don't believe it is possible to give up on something you love, the love dies first and then you give up...I think.
    I think that's spot on.

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    I have requested my season ticket money be refunded unless the club stops negotiating with convicted fraudsters. No response yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivansneck View Post
    I have requested my season ticket money be refunded unless the club stops negotiating with convicted fraudsters. No response yet.
    Please keep us updated , as it will be interesting to hear the response from the club if there is one.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    Who cares what May has or has not done. As long as he puts money into Notts, and we have good players. I am sick of all this childish behaviour of when somebody has done a crime that they should be punished forever

    Notts County are not in a position to be choosy

    I do not give a rats arse who takes over the club, as long as somebody does

    Otherwise if nobody does, we are pretty much finished anyway
    Disgusting !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Unplanned? He got into a car after being on the piss all night, smashed into another car, killing or seriously injuring 2 of the occupants, and then ran away and hid, hoping not to be found until he sobered up. This is with already having a previous conviction for drunk driving.

    This guy is a convicted fraudster, but you’re doing some serious mental gymnastics if you think he’s less suited to be at the club than Lee Hughes. I’m saying I wouldn’t stay away from games because he’s a fraudster, I’m saying I would stay away if he and his group put a crap football team on the pitch. And history suggests most football fans, either consciously or unconsciously, feel the same.
    You really are naive if you think May would do any good for Notts on or off the pitch. Is a convicted fraudster going to invest in a team? Of course not. Its a con, and we were nearly duped, again. People have short memories. The Munto season started with an amazing feeling that finally we would be properly backed by real investors, and quickly turned into a nightmare for supporters as soon as we realised something dodgy was going on. We nearly went bust until Ray Trew stepped in. He got lucky in appointing Cotters which saved our season. Its probably still the Munto debt which is crippling the club.

    There are only two ways out - wealthy backers who will clear the debts and invest in the Club, or admin followed by a new owner with the cash to sustain the Club. May doesn't fit either scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Unplanned? He got into a car after being on the piss all night, smashed into another car, killing or seriously injuring 2 of the occupants, and then ran away and hid, hoping not to be found until he sobered up. This is with already having a previous conviction for drunk driving.

    This guy is a convicted fraudster, but you’re doing some serious mental gymnastics if you think he’s less suited to be at the club than Lee Hughes. I’m saying I wouldn’t stay away from games because he’s a fraudster, I’m saying I would stay away if he and his group put a crap football team on the pitch. And history suggests most football fans, either consciously or unconsciously, feel the same.
    There's some seriously flawed logic there, of course Lee Hughes didn't plan to be in a road traffic accident.

    The fraud, however, was meticulously planned, and quite clever in a way. Do you not think that might possibly suggest that they could be planning some similar money making scam at our expense? You would have to be very naive indeed not to consider that. Do you actually respond to those emails telling you you have inherited millions from someone's estate?

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    Its all a pretty amateur fraud. Munto did a great fraud. These guys got caught out by the Daily Mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenslandpie View Post
    Its all a pretty amateur fraud. Munto did a great fraud. These guys got caught out by the Daily Mirror.
    The pensioners scam was quite clever though.

    Alick Kapikanya led a gang of con artists who stole the identities of elderly homeowners, secretly seized ownership of their houses and then repeatedly remortgaged them.

    Apparently, he wasn't just an advisor on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    There's some seriously flawed logic there, of course Lee Hughes didn't plan to be in a road traffic accident.

    The fraud, however, was meticulously planned, and quite clever in a way. Do you not think that might possibly suggest that they could be planning some similar money making scam at our expense? You would have to be very naive indeed not to consider that. Do you actually respond to those emails telling you you have inherited millions from someone's estate?
    Exactly. You can't compare the two. Lee Hughes made a mistake - he ****ed up, so to speak. If you'd asked him at the start of the night if he wanted or planned to run someone over, he'd have said 'no, of course not.'

    May, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing - he knew the effect it would have on those people, and he knew it was wrong. But he did it anyway. Whatever his intentions in future endeavours, he'll always be the kind of person who did that. For that reason, he cannot be trusted, and he should not be associated with our club.

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    Unfortunately I purchased my season ticket in the mistaken belief that I was helping the club and the takeover appeared imminent. Couldn't have been more wrong. I do feel detached and very angry at the antics of the club and Hardy in particular, whom couldn't run a chip shop. So I agree with the poster's sentiment.

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    My dad was killed by a drunk driver, and I found Lee Hughes being at Notts very difficult. I stayed away at first, but my brothers eventually convinced me to go to matches. It wasn't easy, I never celebrated his goals and I was relieved when he left. But he'd served his time and I recognised he was doing his job.

    This is a very different matter though. Lee Hughes wasn't an existential threat to the club.

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    I also asked for a refund, only to get an email from the club stating they are non transferable and non refundable and they understand the fans frustrations. They offered to send me a copy of the terms and conditions but I'm still waiting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPIECINO View Post
    I also asked for a refund, only to get an email from the club stating they are non transferable and non refundable and they understand the fans frustrations. They offered to send me a copy of the terms and conditions but I'm still waiting..
    I wonder if we don't make a signing if you had recourse? You'd have bought the season ticket under the expectation of us fielding a competitive team? Might be worth looking into

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    I wonder if we don't make a signing if you had recourse? You'd have bought the season ticket under the expectation of us fielding a competitive team? Might be worth looking into
    Well if that's the case, I'm gonna ask for my season ticket money back from last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPIECINO View Post
    I also asked for a refund, only to get an email from the club stating they are non transferable and non refundable and they understand the fans frustrations. They offered to send me a copy of the terms and conditions but I'm still waiting..
    What grounds for refund did you give the club in the email? I can understand them not refunding on the grounds of the lack of takeover information but perhaps if you provided a non-football personal or work related reason they might reconsider. Perhaps you could say your shift pattern has changed and you're now working every Saturday for example?
    Last edited by SwalePie; 17-06-2019 at 06:02 PM.

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    Hope you guys paid on credit card.

    Most S75 refund reasons are likely going to be applicable.....

    “Company goes into administration – the company you purchased from has gone bust. Quality of item – the goods were not as described or were defective. Non-delivery – the goods were not received as promised.”

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    Another option is the lack of information, theoretically your consumer rights extend to the provision of information required to access the service. They have 7 days to respond to this or you are allowed a refund. So non supply of terms and conditions is possible.
    Last edited by The_Don_ORiordan; 18-06-2019 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    What grounds for refund did you give the club in the email? I can understand them not refunding on the grounds of the lack of takeover information but perhaps if you provided a non-football personal or work related reason they might reconsider. Perhaps you could say your shift pattern has changed and you're now working every Saturday for example?
    Unfortunately I was feeling particularly miffed when I contacted them and gave lack of anything positive coming out of this debacle.. Gave em both barrels, which I'm not proud of in hindsight. Its not the guys in the office who are acting the cnut..

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