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Thread: Which player(s) have you found underrated at NUFC?

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    Which player(s) have you found underrated at NUFC?

    There was an interesting discussion about Joey Barton online somewhere. Was he successful here or not? I'd say, overall, he was. A good player, most of the time, for us. If he hadn't constantly f*cked up his personal life, he would probably have had many caps for England.

    Anyway, I don't think he was underrated as such, I think people appreciated his efforts. This made me think; which players have been under-appreciated?

    I think Dummett was for a while, but it seems that most fans can now see what he adds. Maybe he's also improved and so it's fair enough that he didn't get too much credit in the past.

    Williamson, current manager at Gateshead, wasn't always given the credit he deserved. Not a worldbeater, but gave it his all for the shirt (a bit too much against Leicester if I remember correctly).

    Alan Smith did a decent job, though he was a shadow of his former self by the time he came up here.

    In our current setup, I would mention Atsu as someone who is not a particularly good player, but better than he gets credit for.

    Anyone comes to mind?

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    Past players I would say Danny Simpson was underrated.
    I'd also say Danny Guthrie was overlooked and underrated after some very good covering performances for Cabaye.

    Present time I'd say Perez has been underrated quite a lot but has become a sort of yoyo player for criticism, good bad and indifferent.
    Overall though I think he's been definitely underrated.
    Dummett was and still is underrated by some.

    There's plenty of them but equally there's's plenty of overrated one's from the past and present.

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    I'd agree with Simpson, he was my first though.

    Perch was another for a long time.

    I also felt Sibi and Lovenkrands were quite underrated.

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    Perch is a good shout. So is Guthrie and Simpson.

    Hadn't seen our players are actually talking about this season's unsung hero in this clip:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVLlLrEZANc

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    Good thread, Hughie.

    Yeah, Simpson is a very decent shout. Obviously Leicester were greater than the sum of their parts and aye, you can get better right backs but he was solid and decent.

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    Of the current lot I reckon Perez gets a bum deal. People very quick to point the finger at him for whatever reason.

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    Sol Campbell, You did say over weighted,

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonsy View Post
    Of the current lot I reckon Perez gets a bum deal. People very quick to point the finger at him for whatever reason.
    Well....to be frank, people pointed the finger because, up until the turn of the year, he had been shocking. I agree, it'ls looking like we may have under-rated him but there have been far more occasions in his 5 years here when we've said 'ah, ffs Perez, man' than there have been times when we've gone 'ah, we've got a player on our hands here'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Well....to be frank, people pointed the finger because, up until the turn of the year, he had been shocking. I agree, it'ls looking like we may have under-rated him but there have been far more occasions in his 5 years here when we've said 'ah, ffs Perez, man' than there have been times when we've gone 'ah, we've got a player on our hands here'.
    Yeah...the problem with Perez is that we know he can do it. He surprised us in his first season and since then has only played anywhere near the level he can for 4-6 months at the end of the last two seasons.

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    I think Perez is steadily improving under Rafa. He has become more consistent recently and if this improvement continues he could join the ranks of the likes of Pedro and Rob Lee eventually

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    Lee Clark who after leaving pulled the strings for the Mackems and again for Fulham.

    Frank Clarke who was replaced as he was deemed to be too old,went on to win two European Cups with Forest.

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    John Dahl Tomasson.

    Was meant to be a foil for Shearer but had to become the main man when he knacked his leg. Wasn't suited to the role he had to adopt and will be seen as a failure here but went abroad and proved to be a very good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    John Dahl Tomasson.

    Was meant to be a foil for Shearer but had to become the main man when he knacked his leg. Wasn't suited to the role he had to adopt and will be seen as a failure here but went abroad and proved to be a very good player.
    Happy to see a Dane mentioned! And it's very true what you are saying. Went on to play as the main striker next to Shevchencko at AC Milan. Pirlo and Kaka behind him. Not shabby.

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    The little treasure Lua Lua.

    Seemed to score every time he played.

    Never got enough games.

    I think there is a podcast floating around about this very subject from the end of last year. Giving it a listen later.

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    Kevin Gallacher was a grafter from memory. So was Acuna. Craig Moore anyone?

    I liked the Emre graft too.

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    Kevin Gallacher was a grafter from memory. So was Acuna. Craig Moore anyone?

    I liked the Emre graft too.
    Good to see an Aussie mentioned Craig Moore for me was a decent CB.

    Underrated - Viduka (bias confirmed) Perch, Emre, Anita (i quite liked Anita) Simpson

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    I certainly don't think Craig Moore was underrated. I'd say he was rated exactly as to how he played, which was ok without pulling up any trees.
    I'd say Anita was overrated if I'm honest, when he first came, but not by Newcastle fans.
    Viduka was past his sell by date by the time we got him, so being underrated doesn't really come into it as far as fans go, in the main, in my opinion.
    Emre was probably overrated for what we got out of him. Definitely a feast or a famine, but a decent player no less. Rated about right.
    James Perch was a mixture of both over and underrated.
    That's just how I see it, mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    I certainly don't think Craig Moore was underrated. I'd say he was rated exactly as to how he played, which was ok without pulling up any trees.
    I'd say Anita was overrated if I'm honest, when he first came, but not by Newcastle fans.
    Viduka was past his sell by date by the time we got him, so being underrated doesn't really come into it as far as fans go, in the main, in my opinion.
    Emre was probably overrated for what we got out of him. Definitely a feast or a famine, but a decent player no less. Rated about right.
    James Perch was a mixture of both over and underrated.
    That's just how I see it, mind you.
    I agree with all that, besides possibly Anita.

    He was good at what he was bought for...one of a 3 man midfield in between a defensive mid and a No.10. He would keep possession and the ball moving. Lost as a midfield pairing though which he ended up playing in.

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    Aye...Anita was bought as a jigsaw piece for a larger picture...but then remained the only piece we ever bought...so we never really saw the whole picture. Don't think we necessarily under-rated him-he never went on to pull up any trees but in that season we finished 5th, as our only fcking signing, ffs, too much was expected of him, maybe?

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    Aaron Hughes and Stevie Watson. Nothing special but solid defenders moved on too easily.

    Bellamy (I know, I know), there was a massive difference between the way we played when he was in or out of the side during his time here. Obviously nobody thought he was a bad player, but I don't think people realised how important he was to the team.

    Over rated...Sharon Peacock and Warren Barton...both shocking.

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