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Thread: Lampard gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    Frankie aint gone yet... though might not be a bad thing when he does as we can get on with things. We have no squad, no money, and no manager. Tough times ahead!
    Come on Adi it's not that bad we still have Martin Anya and Thorne even have Butters and Blackman for five more days

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    Come on Adi it's not that bad we still have Martin Anya and Thorne even have Butters and Blackman for five more days
    Haha thanks for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdiSalisbury View Post
    Frankie aint gone yet... though might not be a bad thing when he does as we can get on with things. We have no squad, no money, and no manager. Tough times ahead!

    Its not that bad, it was the same when Rowett left, and then Lampard was appointed, a couple of loans in and 6th place in the league again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    Come on Adi it's not that bad we still have Martin Anya and Thorne even have Butters and Blackman for five more days
    Hate to break the news to you Mista but Butters and Blackman have been given an extra year...... apparently something to do with FFP, not sure how but I think it's something to do with spreading the costs over one more year. It also gives the club the chance to get cash from any sale or loan fee.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Hate to break the news to you Mista but Butters and Blackman have been given an extra year...... apparently something to do with FFP, not sure how but I think it's something to do with spreading the costs over one more year. It also gives the club the chance to get cash from any sale or loan fee.......
    MA my understanding is they leave the club in July 1st Blackman to Coventry and Butterfield to Belper Town reserves

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    MA my understanding is they leave the club in July 1st Blackman to Coventry and Butterfield to Belper Town reserves
    In which case I got it wrong and..... thank God I did

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    MA my understanding is they leave the club in July 1st Blackman to Coventry and Butterfield to Belper Town reserves
    I'm surprised Butterfield has got such a high profile transfer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    In which case I got it wrong and..... thank God I did
    No, I think both scenarios are correct.

    In the NBA its known as a "sign and trade deal" to accomodate, amongst other things, salary cap issues. You sign the player to an extended contract (when he was otherwise about to become a free agent) to help, once traded the next day, the receiving team's salary cap. There are all sorts of other side benefits - eg in respect of your own salary cap allocation and / or waivable bonuses, base salaries etc

    But the basics of sign and trade would allow us to recognise the value (in this case minimal I imagine) of an asset that would otherwise be of no value when the player becomes a free agant. It also has self evident FFP benefits of another year to spread the initial acquiaition cost over I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    No, I think both scenarios are correct.

    In the NBA its known as a "sign and trade deal" to accomodate, amongst other things, salary cap issues. You sign the player to an extended contract (when he was otherwise about to become a free agent) to help, once traded the next day, the receiving team's salary cap. There are all sorts of other side benefits - eg in respect of your own salary cap allocation and / or waivable bonuses, base salaries etc

    But the basics of sign and trade would allow us to recognise the value (in this case minimal I imagine) of an asset that would otherwise be of no value when the player becomes a free agant. It also has self evident FFP benefits of another year to spread the initial acquiaition cost over I believe
    Blimey...you should be an accountant!

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    i reckon in another life I must have been one. Some days I wake up and see numbers all over the piece of laburnum that I am making a table out of. Its slow going with just the one arm, and its not helped by the visions of numbers in the graining, but hey ho.

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