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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    I don't mind them bringing in journeyman and younger lads on less expensive contracts if that's what's needed. The trick (and hopefully their talent) will be to help Ardley bring in the right type. O'Brien could be described as a journeyman and he's a good value one, unlike David Vaughan!
    Yeah, there's good journeymen and bad ones, but there doesn't seem much of a business plan in bringing them here at all. If they want to recruit players to sell on as part of their strategy, the're not much future in employing people for their last contract. I doubt they would spend so much on acquiring the club that they didn't have any funds available to execute their plans.

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    So the consensus seems to be that these Danish lads shouldn’t sign old crap players and young crap players but should develop young good players who they can then sell on, and the odd good old player.

    Bloody easy this football lark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    Yeah, there's good journeymen and bad ones, but there doesn't seem much of a business plan in bringing them here at all. If they want to recruit players to sell on as part of their strategy, the're not much future in employing people for their last contract. I doubt they would spend so much on acquiring the club that they didn't have any funds available to execute their plans.
    Yes the main focus would have to be on younger players, although when I look at a team like Crewe who specialise in building their team around young, home-grown talent, they still bring in a couple of old pros on fairly small wages to fill any obvious gaps and probably to help coach the youngsters too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    So the consensus seems to be that these Danish lads shouldn’t sign old crap players and young crap players but should develop young good players who they can then sell on, and the odd good old player.

    Bloody easy this football lark.
    The concept is easy. It's what all clubs are trying to do I imagine.

    Of course, the difficult part is finding a managerial and scouting team with the ability to do it, which hopefully is where Football Radar's expertise comes in. To be fair, it wouldn't take much to improve on our record of recruitment and releasing players over recent years. We've pretty much written the handbook on how not to do it. We sort out the wheat from the chaff and then keep the chaff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    So the consensus seems to be that these Danish lads shouldn’t sign old crap players and young crap players but should develop young good players who they can then sell on, and the odd good old player.

    Bloody easy this football lark.
    You beat me to it. All we have do is sign good players and not sign bad ones haha simples
    People are so quick with theories when we still know f all, we have court next weds and hardy took his printer home is all we really know

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridpie78 View Post
    we have court next weds and hardy took his printer home is all we really know
    That's true, to be fair. At least until tomorrow, everything is guesswork. I won't be buying my season ticket until I've seen the press conference and the winding up order is dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    The concept is easy. It's what all clubs are trying to do I imagine.

    Of course, the difficult part is finding a managerial and scouting team with the ability to do it, which hopefully is where Football Radar's expertise comes in. To be fair, it wouldn't take much to improve on our record of recruitment and releasing players over recent years. We've pretty much written the handbook on how not to do it. We sort out the wheat from the chaff and then keep the chaff!
    Yes.

    In playing terms, there’s lots of evidence to suggest having an academy is a total waste of time, we haven’t had a player come through to make a massive difference to the first team for years. Anyone of any quality quickly goes to a bigger club.

    We as fans have no idea whether the compo received for those players makes a youth policy
    sensible from a purely financial point of view. The new owners may have some sort of magic formula that enables them to spot things in players that others haven’t, but until it’s demonstrated you’ve got to be sceptical. On what I know, I would be putting developing young players on the back burner until we manage to get out of this filth league.

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    If Football Radar were able to demonstrate the efficacy of their knowledge about players through data in supporting choosing playing staff through a successful football team/project it would be a very useful and brand new way of advertising their service. That is apart from the usual channels such as shirt and other sponsorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Yes.

    In playing terms, there’s lots of evidence to suggest having an academy is a total waste of time, we haven’t had a player come through to make a massive difference to the first team for years. Anyone of any quality quickly goes to a bigger club.

    We as fans have no idea whether the compo received for those players makes a youth policy
    sensible from a purely financial point of view. The new owners may have some sort of magic formula that enables them to spot things in players that others haven’t, but until it’s demonstrated you’ve got to be sceptical. On what I know, I would be putting developing young players on the back burner until we manage to get out of this filth league.
    If, as some have suggested here, they apply the Brentford model they won't be using an academy. Brentford got rid of theirs as the cost wasn't worth the return - saving themselves about £1.5 million a year to invest elsewhere. Seems to have been working for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by theory_extinct View Post
    If, as some have suggested here, they apply the Brentford model they won't be using an academy. Brentford got rid of theirs as the cost wasn't worth the return - saving themselves about £1.5 million a year to invest elsewhere. Seems to have been working for them
    I didn’t know a lot about how Brentford did things so your post prompted me to have a little look;


    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...h-huge-budgets

    If we do go down the same route, we could be on to a good thing. Let’s hope so.

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