O/T Democracy

[BigLadonOS]

Who else noticed all those EU flags on the anti democratic protests yesterday? Funny as fcuk or what!

[Scum-Triumphant]

Is Nando’s hot sauce spicier than the extra hot?

I think it is.

[Stovicmiller]

**** em all.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Got to laugh at these feeble minded sheep that are bleating about what Boris has done and how undemocratic it is.

We’re only in this position because they kicked against the democratic decision to leave the EU

As Stovic quite rightly says feck the lot of them

[Pattylallacks2]

Got to laugh at these feeble minded sheep that are bleating about what Boris has done and how undemocratic it is.

We’re only in this position because they kicked against the democratic decision to leave the EU

As Stovic quite rightly says feck the lot of them

Very appropriate actually, as Stovic is a village in Foca in Bosnia Herzegovina

[vaterland_miller]

Got to laugh at these feeble minded sheep that are bleating about what Boris has done and how undemocratic it is.

We’re only in this position because they kicked against the democratic decision to leave the EU

As Stovic quite rightly says feck the lot of them

You'll like this Grist if you haven't heard it yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUxV6SvQHc0

[ragingpup]

Who else noticed all those EU flags on the anti democratic protests yesterday? Funny as fcuk or what!

Best speakers yesterday in London were those who, being left of centre, voted to leave from the EU as the neo liberal organisation out is. But now are joining us (not as eu supporters but as parliamentary democracy advocates) against the government as they are pissed off that their vote has been hijacked by Johnson and the far right for their own ends.

Quite happy to leave with the WA. Quite happy to leave with No Deal. But only if our elected representatives vote finally that this is in our national interest. That's our parliamentary democracy. Any other way is quite frightening..

Spent most of last night last night in the slammer in Charing Cross. Nothing violent, just obstruction. First time in my life. Wife was thankfully spared that but thankfully had great solidarity from others who supported us at the station until we were released. (Coppers were great too tbf, completely on our side but doing their job) I would never have done that for Remain. I have never marched on Remain demos. Yesterday was simply because we have a new government that is clearly trying to bypass our parliamentary democracy.

I realise how frustrating it is for people who voted to leave in the advisory referendum but I can't see how shutting down our parliamentary democracy can be a positive thing. Its very easy to agree with Cumming's actions (cos he's your leader, make no mistake) on this occasion if you agree with this policy, but what about next time? What if a left wing loon is voted in and wants to super tax high earners up to 90% against the wishes of parliament? Is this really where we want to go?

(Just a quick hi to Kerr who I noted with merriment is trying to direct our attention away from this calamity to football posts. Nice one Kerr! :-))

[BigLadonOS]

Best speakers yesterday in London were those who, being left of centre, voted to leave from the EU as the neo liberal organisation out is. But now are joining us (not as eu supporters but as parliamentary democracy advocates) against the government as they are pissed off that their vote has been hijacked by Johnson and the far right for their own ends.

Quite happy to leave with the WA. Quite happy to leave with No Deal. But only if our elected representatives vote finally that this is in our national interest. That's our parliamentary democracy. Any other way is quite frightening..

Spent most of last night last night in the slammer in Charing Cross. Nothing violent, just obstruction. First time in my life. Wife was thankfully spared that but thankfully had great solidarity from others who supported us at the station until we were released. (Coppers were great too tbf, completely on our side but doing their job) I would never have done that for Remain. I have never marched on Remain demos. Yesterday was simply because we have a new government that is clearly trying to bypass our parliamentary democracy.

I realise how frustrating it is for people who voted to leave in the advisory referendum but I can't see how shutting down our parliamentary democracy can be a positive thing. Its very easy to agree with Cumming's actions (cos he's your leader, make no mistake) on this occasion if you agree with this policy, but what about next time? What if a left wing loon is voted in and wants to super tax high earners up to 90% against the wishes of parliament? Is this really where we want to go?

(Just a quick hi to Kerr who I noted with merriment is trying to direct our attention away from this calamity to football posts. Nice one Kerr! :-))

Just to let you know mate that the referendum was not advisory at all and yet again you have had the wool pulled over your eyes or you did know what I am about to tell you and you just ignored it anyway and decided democracy was not for you because you did not like the result.

When Cameron promised us the referendum it was voted on in both the house of commons and the house of lords which made it in to a law that a referendum must be held. Once that law had been passed it was also voted on that the result of that referendum would be abided by which was passed in both the house of commons and the house of lords making it a law.

Once the deal May had failed for the 3rd time the only lawful action available to them was to leave with no deal or to extend for a short period of time. It did not cater for a 2nd extension and so after the 1st extension lapsed it was undemocratic to do anything else other than leave with no deal.

Just thought I would try to educate a few of the remoaners who foolishly think they are being demicratic when in reality they are the most antidemocratic bunch of whinging barstewards of all time.

[ragingpup]

Just to let you know mate that the referendum was not advisory at all and yet again you have had the wool pulled over your eyes or you did know what I am about to tell you and you just ignored it anyway and decided democracy was not for you because you did not like the result.

When Cameron promised us the referendum it was voted on in both the house of commons and the house of lords which made it in to a law that a referendum must be held. Once that law had been passed it was also voted on that the result of that referendum would be abided by which was passed in both the house of commons and the house of lords making it a law.

Once the deal May had failed for the 3rd time the only lawful action available to them was to leave with no deal or to extend for a short period of time. It did not cater for a 2nd extension and so after the 1st extension lapsed it was undemocratic to do anything else other than leave with no deal.

Just thought I would try to educate a few of the remoaners who foolishly think they are being demicratic when in reality they are the most antidemocratic bunch of whinging barstewards of all time.

Just sounding bullish doesn't make you right BL. You are simply wrong. The referendum was not legally binding. The government did tell us that they would implement the result but they were wrong to do that as we are a parliamentary democracy and any such decisions, any referendum, as set out in our law, must first pass through parliament, our elected representatives, to become law. The High Court ruled.

This is to stop a government suddenly putting a populist vote to the people (hanging for example, or hiking super taxes), getting it through in a way that it couldn't through parliamentary means. That's why its set up that way and that's why it's important that this is challenged.

https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-r...SAAEgIoyvD_BwE

[Exiletyke]

Just sounding bullish doesn't make you right BL. You are simply wrong. The referendum was not legally binding. The government did tell us that they would implement the result but they were wrong to do that as we are a parliamentary democracy and any such decisions, any referendum, as set out in our law, must first pass through parliament, our elected representatives, to become law. The High Court ruled.

This is to stop a government suddenly putting a populist vote to the people (hanging for example, or hiking super taxes), getting it through in a way that it couldn't through parliamentary means. That's why its set up that way and that's why it's important that this is challenged.

https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-r...SAAEgIoyvD_BwE

Then why did almost 500 MP's vote to trigger Article 50. Democratically I might add
Perhaps they didn't know what they were doing