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Thread: Big day in Parliament (Part 53)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I've sat and talked with JC twice, he's the nicest bloke you could ever wish to meet. Forget the IRA and Hamas, let's concentrate on the really important stuff, for example...

    The Labour party will radically overhaul the “inhuman and cruel” Universal Credit programme and scrap benefit sanctions as part of new proposals to reform the social security system and reduce needless poverty.

    The appalling Tory imposed five-week wait for a first Universal Credit payment, is largely responsible for deprivation, destitution, debt and the necessity for food banks will be reduced and phased out. The discriminatory benefit cap and two-child benefit limit will be also scrapped.

    A Labour government promises to sweep away the current “punish and police” paradigm, currently operated by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

    In its place will come a fresh approach to social security benefits, that treats all claimants with dignity and respect and will not be evocative of visiting a HMP prison visitor centre.
    BT I have nothing against people who deserve benefit receiving it, I’m afraid though our country is full of sponge of the state ers and while they watch big tv and smoke fags real people who need it don’t receive it.

    However I’ve said this on here before all the things you list are for the good and I’m fairly sure most wouldn’t condemn it on here, I still believe there is only one pot of money and for someone to gain to the extreme you are portraying someone else will suffer it’s just the way it is.

    I commend you for believing that Jeremy is the man to deliver that I’m not convinced, I’ve met many nice people in my life some of them turned out to be horrible as it goes.

    It’s easy to condemn the rich BT and say equality for all etc but fact is the rich are as important as anyone else they keep the country going - I also believe that if they incentivised some of the really rich to keep their money in our country we’d be stronger for it.

    Labour used to be for the working man without doubt , now it’s so close to conservative there isn’t much between them so I don’t get the so called massive divide that some people seem to see

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    Just in case your think it

    I’m definitely not rich

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    We have one pot of money, its how many ladles are designated to each participant. I don't get why one person gets one ladle and one gets twenty.

    I have carried a huge dilemma the whole of my life; I'm an old fashioned money making entrepreneur by nature, but I cannot go past a homeless person in the street without bunging him or her a few quid.

    The Child Bride used to go mad whenever I stopped to have five minutes with the Big Issue seller and buy two copies not one. She is used to it now and just goes window shopping until I catch her up.

    It's hard being a Christian, a capitalist and democratic socialist, but I give it my best shot.

    To respond to your, "Just in case your think it, I’m definitely not rich", my first awakening to politics was listening to my maternal grandmother. She was orphaned at 7, put into "service" at the age of 8, had 9 children through the depression, experienced the horrors of two World wars, had to rely on weekly cash handouts from her family when she retired because her State pension was wholly inadequate, but she was still an ardent died in the wool blue nosed Tory supporter. The rows we had before she sadly passed away were momentous, because I was born to be a socialist!

    VOTE LABOUR. FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    - don’t forget the whole thing could implode any time soon and drop into the black hole it deserves to be in.
    This something else they don't tell us army, the eurozone is indeed in a parlous state, it could implode any time, and when it does, if we're still in the EU, we are responsible for a large part of financing the bailout, even though we're not even in the euro. No 'expert' has yet been asked how much our contribution would likely be, but it would be an eyewatering sum, in the billions of Euros. No wonder no Remoaner likes to mention this, and no wonder the EU is desperate to keep us in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    We have one pot of money, its how many ladles are designated to each participant. I don't get why one person gets one ladle and one gets twenty.

    I have carried a huge dilemma the whole of my life; I'm an old fashioned money making entrepreneur by nature, but I cannot go past a homeless person in the street without bunging him or her a few quid.

    The Child Bride used to go mad whenever I stopped to have five minutes with the Big Issue seller and buy two copies not one. She is used to it now and just goes window shopping until I catch her up.

    It's hard being a Christian, a capitalist and democratic socialist, but I give it my best shot.

    To respond to your, "Just in case your think it, I’m definitely not rich", my first awakening to politics was listening to my maternal grandmother. She was orphaned at 7, put into "service" at the age of 8, had 9 children through the depression, experienced the horrors of two World wars, had to rely on weekly cash handouts from her family when she retired because her State pension was wholly inadequate, but she was still an ardent died in the wool blue nosed Tory supporter. The rows we had before she sadly passed away were momentous, because I was born to be a socialist!

    VOTE LABOUR. FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW.
    BT I do
    That myself give to the homeless and my wife will go and buy a sleeping bag ,coat etc and give it to the people on the streets
    See we’re not so different really just slightly different views.

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    BoJo's new statement heard somewhere in Manchester today, obviously aimed towards Labour female MP's...

    "Get Brexit done or die!"

    VOTE LABOUR. FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    BoJo's new statement heard somewhere in Manchester today, obviously aimed towards Labour female MP's...

    "Get Brexit done or die!"

    VOTE LABOUR. FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW.
    Just read interesting part re your mp for Liverpool west regarding Boris and his mother with Jimmy saville.

    More I read your posts BT your obsessed with Boris and his quotes etc surely it would be more positive if Jeremy had some decent quotes that you could get out there.

    Said before BT I admire your commitment to the labour movement but I’m really of the opinion that Boris should deliver Brexit and then you can have your day At the polls.

    Still think the election will achieve nothing but I’m willing to accept the result should it go labours way ( can’t see it though ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    just read interesting part re your mp for liverpool west regarding boris and his mother with jimmy saville.

    More i read your posts bt your obsessed with boris and his quotes etc surely it would be more positive if jeremy had some decent quotes that you could get out there.

    Said before bt i admire your commitment to the labour movement but i’m really of the opinion that boris should deliver brexit and then you can have your day at the polls.

    Still think the election will achieve nothing but i’m willing to accept the result should it go labours way ( can’t see it though ).
    vote labour & let's all of us win?

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    Your gonna be disappointed BT he won’t deliver what he says he will, you must be a trusting soul.
    How many student loans has he paid off from last time that he promised sorry said he didn’t promise.

    I can’t see it BT he has underlying views to terrorism and you overlook that And are prepared to back him.

    Even if I thought labour was the way forward for the country I couldn’t vote for him on moral grounds.

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    He did not get in last time so he could hardly keep his promise to pay off student loans if he was not in government.

    I support Corbyn's view wholeheartedly on Palestine, I support the call for a united Ireland, but I cannot and will not support the case to prosecute one single British soldier, who is being scapegoated by the British Establishment to appease the Irish catholic call for "justice".

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