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Thread: Bully Wee vs Doonhamers Tunnocks Caramel Wafer Challenge Cup

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    Bully Wee vs Doonhamers Tunnocks Caramel Wafer Challenge Cup

    Referee: Colin Steven

    AR1: Drew Kirkland

    AR2: Ivan Stankovic

    Fourth Official: David Lowe

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    https://youtu.be/NxnMfWen4_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBERTZ_11 View Post
    Not even a hint that he might have any responsibility. What he says about the performance is spot on but he sat and watched that unravel in the 2nd half and did absolutely nothing to change things until we were 3-2 down and Clyde had all the momentum. I'm a fan of AJ but it was crying out for some changes 2nd half. Really poor stuff.

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    Also the fact that only one sub was utilised also.

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    Alan Johnson has created Dunfermline mark 2 at Palmerston this year, - knowing that Dunfermline mark 1 didn't work last year. This is extremely worrying. Normally when someone hits their head off a brick wall they tend not to do it again.

    Success in the Championship is down to graft for 90 minutes every week. Livingston proved it last season and were promoted. Alloa proved it last week at Palmerston and then yesterday Queens sat back and were punished.

    We may have good, technical players on the park AJ, - but if they are not fully fit and willing to graft for the 90 minutes we will be punished.

    Queens are really missing Doyle, Marshall and Dykes who were the grafters last season. If we can't get a grafter or two in midfield, - then the rest of the team are really going to have to pull up their socks big time.

    I was prepared to let last week go as a bad day at the office, - but no business can survive if the personnel are not willing to put in the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jardi View Post
    Alan Johnson has created Dunfermline mark 2 at Palmerston this year, - knowing that Dunfermline mark 1 didn't work last year. This is extremely worrying. Normally when someone hits their head off a brick wall they tend not to do it again.

    Success in the Championship is down to graft for 90 minutes every week. Livingston proved it last season and were promoted. Alloa proved it last week at Palmerston and then yesterday Queens sat back and were punished.

    We may have good, technical players on the park AJ, - but if they are not fully fit and willing to graft for the 90 minutes we will be punished.

    Queens are really missing Doyle, Marshall and Dykes who were the grafters last season. If we can't get a grafter or two in midfield, - then the rest of the team are really going to have to pull up their socks big time.

    I was prepared to let last week go as a bad day at the office, - but no business can survive if the personnel are not willing to put in the work.
    Yep yesterday was absolutely unacceptable. It's all very well Johnston going on that we could/should have had the game won first half. We didn't do so and he sat and watched the game unravel from our point of view and seemed either unwilling or unable to try to change things. Dreadful day all round. It's a chilling that that last season's side had a far better worth ethic than this one seems to have and that side were very very close to going down.

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    Agree that a substitution should have been made earlier when the first signs we were losing the midfield became apparent. Hamilton was the right man to bring on and Paton the right one to be hooked but who else from the bench could have influenced the game? I'm glad Gary Oliver wasn't risked in this match if he's still not 100% fit. I doubt if Kidd could have had any positive effect on the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jardi View Post
    Alan Johnson has created Dunfermline mark 2 at Palmerston this year, - knowing that Dunfermline mark 1 didn't work last year. This is extremely worrying. Normally when someone hits their head off a brick wall they tend not to do it again.

    Success in the Championship is down to graft for 90 minutes every week. Livingston proved it last season and were promoted. Alloa proved it last week at Palmerston and then yesterday Queens sat back and were punished.

    We may have good, technical players on the park AJ, - but if they are not fully fit and willing to graft for the 90 minutes we will be punished.

    Queens are really missing Doyle, Marshall and Dykes who were the grafters last season. If we can't get a grafter or two in midfield, - then the rest of the team are really going to have to pull up their socks big time.

    I was prepared to let last week go as a bad day at the office, - but no business can survive if the personnel are not willing to put in the work.
    Sound points Jardi and the squad need to get back to the basics grafting out results especially as Dobbie is going through one of those spells when his shooting is not up to his usual impeccable standards. When the maestro dies up then so do the results as other do not really step up to the mark often enough as was clearly the case towards the end of last season as well.

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    Rumours that the manager and his assistant aren’t the most likeable of people. My Dunfermline friends across the bridge have also confirmed this.

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    I still reckon Josh Todd is a really big miss for Queens....

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    It's alright blaming Johnston but he's brought in what his budget allows and it's clearly not enough to attract anyone of quality and it seems the decent loan players have also dried up.

    If living within our means is this dross then we would be better dropping down a division and admitting the championship is now a league too far.

    I think to be honest the BOD have realistically taken us as far as they can or willing to. They don't want to risk gambling for a bit of success. We find ourselves already out of pocket crashing out of two cups early doors and the attendances are going to nose dive unless we pull something out of the bag.

    Just to think, we haven't even played anyone decent yet !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrol1919 View Post
    Rumours that the manager and his assistant arenít the most likeable of people. My Dunfermline friends across the bridge have also confirmed this.
    We don't need them to be likeable. We need them to be effective not be everybody's pal. Many of the best managers aren't well liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deek5trans View Post
    It's alright blaming Johnston but he's brought in what his budget allows and it's clearly not enough to attract anyone of quality and it seems the decent loan players have also dried up.

    If living within our means is this dross then we would be better dropping down a division and admitting the championship is now a league too far.

    I think to be honest the BOD have realistically taken us as far as they can or willing to. They don't want to risk gambling for a bit of success. We find ourselves already out of pocket crashing out of two cups early doors and the attendances are going to nose dive unless we pull something out of the bag.

    Just to think, we haven't even played anyone decent yet !!
    True to an extent but the money on the likes of Paton could have been way better spent, the guy failed at league 1 in a dreadful Dumbarton side last season. He's absolutely done at this level. Money would have been much better spent elsewhere.
    McCrorie, Oliver, Semple (if fit) are easily good enough for this level. Holt too albeit he has had a sluggish start. That said, the lack of decent signings in midfield is a huge concern.

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    Once again, I would like to make a pertinent point. Livingston on paper were nothing special but look what they accomplished?

    This has little to do with bringing in better players and everything to do with attitude and hard work.

    On paper, - we have a lot of talented players, - but are they willing to graft? Being 2-0 up against a side one league below, - but losing 3 relatively late goals tells me a lot about fitness and graft I'm afraid.

    Queens could bring in 6 super talented players in the January window, - but unless they are willing to put in the work and change the attitude, - we'll still end up getting beaten by daft wee teams (on paper)

    That being said, - a loan midfielder would add some guile to our squad...………………………………………..provided he was willing to put in a shift.

    So although its really nice to watch flicks and tricks and all the subtleties of small sided games being translated onto the big pitch, - that only works if you have a winning team. Perhaps less of the tricks and more of the work, - wearing down sides (like Livingston did) until they eventually capitulate is what is required?

    I've said it already this season and I'll say it again; is playing Dobbie for 90 minutes the correct way to play this mercurial maestro? I would rather see the youngsters at the club running defences ragged for a full hour, - before unleashing the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobmeister View Post
    True to an extent but the money on the likes of Paton could have been way better spent, the guy failed at league 1 in a dreadful Dumbarton side last season. He's absolutely done at this level. Money would have been much better spent elsewhere.
    McCrorie, Oliver, Semple (if fit) are easily good enough for this level. Holt too albeit he has had a sluggish start. That said, the lack of decent signings in midfield is a huge concern.

    The Paton signing was shocking. Same the Kidd and imo Oliver one wasn't much better mainly down to A his height and B his injury record.
    With Paton though he was training with us for a while so might have been a desperation signing.

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