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Thread: 20th Anniversary of the murder of Harry Stanley

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    How much was it reduced by ? half, a wee bit, Why don't just you say he got what he deserved because he had a criminal record. There is a valid argument that Harry Stanley was executed. A wee bit of research show he was shot from 15 feet he wasn't shot to disable him he was shot clean through the head. For a highly trained officer to shot someone in the head is a conscious decision to shoot to kill. The fact this officer cant tell the difference between a Queen Anne table leg and a gun shouldn't come into it.
    I thought there was no such thing as shooting to disable if the target is carrying a firearm? Too risky.

    I stand to be corrected as I only gleamed that knowledge from some TV show or other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    This whole episode actually goes much further than the killing itself. The Met themselves did everything to resist the investigation some would say they impeded it. The two officers themselves were charge with perverting the course of justice. The unit involved actually went on strike because their motives were questioned ! These unofficial strikers of the police armed group no doubt think that they should have the right to life or death over the community and immunity from prosecution when they kill innocents. And the3 bottom line id Harry Stanley was innocent
    I think you’ll find that any officer who is armed makes the decision to carry voluntarily they can’t be forced to be armed so if they choose not be be armed it is entirely their right so not exactly striking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    I think you’ll find that any officer who is armed makes the decision to carry voluntarily they can’t be forced to be armed so if they choose not be be armed it is entirely their right so not exactly striking
    Semantics min. Striking is perhaps not the right word or is it ? What they polis did was protest and refused to do the job they signed up for and handed back their authorisation to carry weapons. So it was a protest and a strike is a protest.

    Edit..Strike a refusal to work organized by a body of employees as a form of protest, typically in an attempt to gain a concession or concessions from their employer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Semantics min. Striking is perhaps not the right word or is it ? What they polis did was protest and refused to do the job they signed up for and handed back their authorisation to carry weapons. So it was a protest and a strike is a protest.

    Edit..Strike a refusal to work organized by a body of employees as a form of protest, typically in an attempt to gain a concession or concessions from their employer.
    They would have refused to carry a firearm which is not compulsory for police in the UK unlike say the USA. They would have still been available to be deployed for routine incidents not requiring a firearms officer. No doubt if every police officer was armed you’d have complaints about that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    They would have refused to carry a firearm which is not compulsory for police in the UK unlike say the USA. They would have still been available to be deployed for routine incidents not requiring a firearms officer. No doubt if every police officer was armed you’d have complaints about that too.
    The bottom line is 2 of their colleagues were (rightly) suspended for at best carelessness that cost an Innocent Man his life at worst Murder. And their mates threw the toys out of the pram. Police officers are not above the law. RIP Harry Stanley.

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    Bottom line a high court judge ruled they acted correctly but what does he know compared to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    Bottom line a high court judge ruled they acted correctly but what does he know compared to you.
    The bottom line is that an unarmed, innocent civilian was murdered by people who get paid to 'protect and serve'.

    That a judge decided that this murder was a lawful action makes a mockery of the legal system.

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    Maybe you can tell us you law qualifications so we can decide who has the better grasp of what constitutes a murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    Maybe you can tell us you law qualifications so we can decide who has the better grasp of what constitutes a murder
    Unarmed man with a table leg as a 'weapon' and a non-English accent shot dead walking home from pub.I don't need a wig, robe and be a member of some quasi-religious fully masonic society like the Inner Temple to know that it's cold blooded murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by BogBrush1903 View Post
    Unarmed man with a table leg as a 'weapon' and a non-English accent shot dead walking home from pub.I don't need a wig, robe and be a member of some quasi-religious fully masonic society like the Inner Temple to know that it's cold blooded murder
    So are you saying that the two cops who shot him knew or should have assumed that he wasn’t carrying a gun ?

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