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Thread: Back in OUR Relegation Spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    It's not a case of stating anything as an achievement, it's pushing a positive against unbelievable negatives. It's almost as if this forum is for Newcastle United haters rather than a love for the club. It's as weird as all hell.
    It's as if most of us have grown out of playing make believe. ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Aye, only 4 points from 3rd and this after playing Arsenal home, Tottenham away and Liverpool away in our first 5 games.
    It's fair to point out those three that we've played-BUT-we've all seen the signs before. We can see the 'quality' of the team we're watching, we know how weak it is and we know about the lack of quality of our manager (canny bloke, crap manager).

    The fact that we're in the bottom 3 so early in the season, combined with the above, added to our all-too-recent experiences of relegation seasons or near-relegation seasons means that people are, quite naturally and understandably-and rightly imo, sceptical to say the least about our chances this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    It's fair to point out those three that we've played-BUT-we've all seen the signs before. We can see the 'quality' of the team we're watching, we know how weak it is and we know about the lack of quality of our manager (canny bloke, crap manager).

    The fact that we're in the bottom 3 so early in the season, combined with the above, added to our all-too-recent experiences of relegation seasons or near-relegation seasons means that people are, quite naturally and understandably-and rightly imo, sceptical to say the least about our chances this season.
    Spot on assessment Zip absolutely nailed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    It's fair to point out those three that we've played-BUT-we've all seen the signs before. We can see the 'quality' of the team we're watching, we know how weak it is and we know about the lack of quality of our manager (canny bloke, crap manager).
    We'll see if he's crap for us. 5 games in isn't a time to judge that.
    And past records for him does not suggest he's crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    The fact that we're in the bottom 3 so early in the season, combined with the above, added to our all-too-recent experiences of relegation seasons or near-relegation seasons means that people are, quite naturally and understandably-and rightly imo, sceptical to say the least about our chances this season.
    So that's Wolves knackered then by that thought process.

    A manager who's had time to build his squad with bags of money against Bruce who's had 5 minutes and yet 5 games in we're goosed.
    Nahhh sorry I don't buy into that negativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    We'll see if he's crap for us. 5 games in isn't a time to judge that.
    And past records for him does not suggest he's crap.

    So that's Wolves knackered then by that thought process.

    A manager who's had time to build his squad with bags of money against Bruce who's had 5 minutes and yet 5 games in we're goosed.
    Nahhh sorry I don't buy into that negativity.
    Wolves fans are also worried. However...the difference being that their manager has already proved he can get a tune out of his squad. Wolves have played fairly well in all their games other than the Chelsea one.

    We've had one good performance and that was only defensively...by all means carry on like everything is going well..sadly that won't make it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usedtobeshearer View Post
    Wolves fans are also worried. However...the difference being that their manager has already proved he can get a tune out of his squad. Wolves have played fairly well in all their games other than the Chelsea one.

    We've had one good performance and that was only defensively...by all means carry on like everything is going well..sadly that won't make it so.
    As I was telling my Wolves fan mate, they’re having ‘Europa cup syndrome’ . After the group games they’ll be fine. We won’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AP69 View Post
    Spot on assessment Zip absolutely nailed it
    For me the Club is in a mess from top to bottom. Under 23’s are rubbish we have one out and out striker in Joelinton. I don’t class Muto as a striker. We have a decent Second Division manager and back room staff but they are certainly not a Premiership Coaching Team

    I dread to see the financial report for next year. Ashley took £30 million of his loan back, borrowed the money for Almeiron and now lodged another unspecified loan against 2019/2020 Sky Money

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherTerryMac View Post
    For me the Club is in a mess from top to bottom. Under 23’s are rubbish we have one out and out striker in Joelinton. I don’t class Muto as a striker. We have a decent Second Division manager and back room staff but they are certainly not a Premiership Coaching Team

    I dread to see the financial report for next year. Ashley took £30 million of his loan back, borrowed the money for Almeiron and now lodged another unspecified loan against 2019/2020 Sky Money
    I hate being negative about the club
    After the leicester game at the end last season I was ready to make a return to the club but that feeling of needing to go again has been totally blown away and I'll stick to my original stance of I'll not get a season ticket again until he sells.

    This season may be the first time in nearly 40 years that I wont enter St James' Park

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherTerryMac View Post
    For me the Club is in a mess from top to bottom. Under 23’s are rubbish we have one out and out striker in Joelinton. I don’t class Muto as a striker. We have a decent Second Division manager and back room staff but they are certainly not a Premiership Coaching Team

    I dread to see the financial report for next year. Ashley took £30 million of his loan back, borrowed the money for Almeiron and now lodged another unspecified loan against 2019/2020 Sky Money
    It would certainly be ironic (but, unfortunately highly possible) if Ashley took the club back into ‘Shepherd’ type debt.
    The only defence of him that holds any water is he removed the threat of bankrupcy. From what I’ve seen he’d financially cripple the club in a heart beat if it favoured his other businesses.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by toptoon View Post
    It would certainly be ironic (but, unfortunately highly possible) if Ashley took the club back into ‘Shepherd’ type debt.
    The only defence of him that holds any water is he removed the threat of bankrupcy. From what I’ve seen he’d financially cripple the club in a heart beat if it favoured his other businesses.
    We are crippled with debt now mate that is why no one wants to buy us Fatty wants the loan money back so he has vastly overpriced the club to recoup his debt.

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