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    I have always found it odd sinkov that the British toffs favour a privileged Israeli state and the Jews, whilst the British proletariat favour subjugated Muslims and the occupied Palestinian Territories.

    Framed like that, I suppose it's a no-brainer really.

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    B T: Wow ,your friends the Palestinians have made a draw 0-0 with Saudi Arabia. I believe they dished out Hollands pies at half time!

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    To the right honourable B T: ''All the while, the Israelis back Trump in this game of geopolitical chess and continue to fill their coffers with billions of military aid from the US''.
    https://www.israelandstuff.com/

    How U.S. Military Aid to Israel Actually Works. ( By Phillip Pasmanick )
    It’s a fact that year after year, huge amounts of military aid is earmarked for Israel via overwhelming bipartisan support in both the U.S. Senate & House of Representatives, but the squad of young Democrat antisemitic detractors conveniently translate that to it’s being ‘given’ to Israel…and therein lies the subversive misleading claim.

    Those who think the U.S. “SENDS” or “GIVES” the ‘Military Aid’ to Israel are simply uninformed and unaware of how the financial assistance is laid out with regard to Israel, and Israel alone. Significantly more money for military budgets is sent to countries like Germany, Saudi Arabia, and Japan, allocated under designated categories, funding policies, or procurement titles. Only those who are invested in gathering all the information really know the details.

    Since 2018 all of what’s allocated to the Jewish State is regulated by law to be spent in the United States. So, the ‘aid given to Israel’ is actually used in paying American workers and keeping them employed to pay taxes that goes on to stimulate the American economy. That chunk is to ASSIST in the R&D of Israeli ideas and innovations that ISRAELI engineers/scientists are working on in America….such as the Iron Dome, a well known Israeli anti-missile missile, that was actualised and is still being produced in the U.S.
    – In return for the above, the U.S. inherits invaluable Israeli technology.

    The United States has full access to EVERYTHING that Israel conceptualised and then contracted for production in the U.S. Everything that’s ‘Made for Israel’ belongs to the U.S. too (which is fair, since the US paid for it) and the US can go on to export it for a profit.
    .......such assistance to Israel is a win-win situation for both countries, making both stronger and safer.

  4. #124
    I feel a whole lot better for knowing that Balan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I have always found it odd sinkov that the British toffs favour a privileged Israeli state and the Jews, whilst the British proletariat favour subjugated Muslims and the occupied Palestinian Territories.

    Framed like that, I suppose it's a no-brainer really.
    I like it BT, the British proletariat, I haven't heard of them for a long while, it reminds me of the 70s when I couldn't get enough of Tony Benn. I thought they were an extinct species, like dinosaurs, but apparently not. Tell me BT, are there many of them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I like it BT, the British proletariat, I haven't heard of them for a long while, it reminds me of the 70s when I couldn't get enough of Tony Benn. I thought they were an extinct species, like dinosaurs, but apparently not. Tell me BT, are there many of them ?
    Loads of us sinkov. Some of us even drive Beamers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    B T: Wow ,your friends the Palestinians have made a draw 0-0 with Saudi Arabia. I believe they dished out Hollands pies at half time!
    Not even a Hollands Pie can save the Syrians Balan...

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    BT: It looks like it is the Kurds in trouble not the Syrians? In that area live Kurds and some Syrians. But why does Erdogan ('Mr Turkey') want a 20 km safe zone, by driving out the Kurds? If they are driven out ,who would replace them? Is his intention to expel the 3 million Syrians already in Turkey,to settle there and fill that vacuum? If it is ,then why did they leave Syria?Because of the fighting ,the bombing etc ,or their fear of President Bashar al-Assad? If they are Sunni Arabs,then al-Assad is their enemy? After all the Government in Syria is an Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party,who have remained the dominant force in Syria, with al-Assad ruling them with an iron fist! Turkey will withdraw ,but it can only do so knowing a solution is agreeable also to Turkey. Bashar al-Assad would not want Turkey invading its land, and that now, is where the Russians come in. That would be Putin's task,to formulate a peaceful solution! They say peace is the result of a fight ,but just where does that leave the Kurds??

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I feel a whole lot better for knowing that Balan.
    I lke the way Balan fills in the little gaps in our knowledge of the true situation in that region BT, and sometimes the gaps aren't quite so little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Loads of us sinkov. Some of us even drive Beamers!
    Well you just take care in that Beamer BT, and don't run any of them over, they might not be quite extinct yet, but they're certainly an endangered species, on the red list, if you'll pardon the pun.

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    BT: I was just looking back a few pages and in your post no 14, it's interesting

    https://daysofpalestine.com/post/127...2nkkGOxYD9G7Jw

    The Independant's page tells us about the Turkish President Erdogan calls for 'international peace force ' to protect Palestinians after dozens killed by Israeli forces.

    ''I wonder if this could be the same peace force that serves in Lebanon and lets Hezbullah store 160 thousand rockets, ready to fire upon Israel ?''

    He says, ''To take action for Palestinians massacred by Israeli bandits is to show the whole world that humanity is not dead,''

    ''Could that be the same Erdogan that massacred , those Kurds? .....( I luv those pally's, but not the Kurds ,so phuck em!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    BT: I was just looking back a few pages and in your post no 14, it's interesting

    https://daysofpalestine.com/post/127...2nkkGOxYD9G7Jw

    The Independant's page tells us about the Turkish President Erdogan calls for 'international peace force ' to protect Palestinians after dozens killed by Israeli forces.

    ''I wonder if this could be the same peace force that serves in Lebanon and lets Hezbullah store 160 thousand rockets, ready to fire upon Israel ?''

    He says, ''To take action for Palestinians massacred by Israeli bandits is to show the whole world that humanity is not dead,''

    ''Could that be the same Erdogan that massacred , those Kurds? .....( I luv those pally's, but not the Kurds ,so phuck em!)
    The global, geopolitical hypocrisy is way beyond alarming Balan.

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    Alarming correct, BT: As you are a passionate humanitarian ,and your constant humanitarian ideal for the Palestinians is real,but much deeper behind all this is Iran!

    An Iranian Revolutionary Guards top commander threatened Israel, warning against an Israeli attack on Iran,
    “If Israel makes a strategic mistake, it has to collect bits and pieces of Tel Aviv from the lower depths of the Mediterranean Sea,” IRGC Deputy Commander for Operations Abbas Nilforoushan said in an interview with the IRGC’s Tasnim news agency.

    Nilforoushan added that “Israel is not in a position to threaten Iran” and that “Iran has encircled Israel from all four sides.”

    Nilforoushan also stated that Hezbollah would “liberate northern Israel in case a war breaks out.”
    “This will certainly happen, as Hezbollah has a good capability to do it,” he said.

    So you think Palestinians are fighting to gain their lost Palestine??

    It is Iran behind the Hamas in Gaza ,Iran behind Hezbullah in Lebanon and in Syria. Iran behind the Jihadist in the southern deserts of the Sinai Peninsula. (now Egypt).Iran behind the Houthis in Yemen.

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    BT : But as may you think, humanity went out the back door and came back again!

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ku...ospital-605599

    KURDISH CHILDREN BEING TREATED AT ISRAELI HOSPITAL
    "I was not afraid to come to Israel, even though I was warned I could lose my Syrian passport.”

    The goal of Shevet Achm is to help non-Israeli children receive life-saving medical care in the Jewish state. Efforts are continuing despite recent escalations In the last 10 months, they have arranged treatment at Sheba and visas for 41 Iraqi Kurdish children, as well as three from Syria. Two new patients are slated to arrive from the war-torn areas on Sunday, according to Miles, though he could not disclose further details.

    Most of the surgeries are handled by Dr. David Mishali, head of the International Congenital Heart Center with Sheba’s Safra Children’s Hospital. He told the Post that without these surgeries, the children would either die or face a lifetime of debilitation.

    “In many cases, when we read the children’s medical file from his country of origin, it can differ from what we discover with our advanced check-ups,” Mishali explained. “That is because in many Third World countries, medical technology is nearly 60 years behind from developed Western countries, like Israel.”

    “I am taking care of the patients the same way I take care of my Israeli patients,” he said. “They are beautiful people – warm and authentic people. It is a pleasure to take care of them.”

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    Where is the outrage..?

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    Why are the UN, the EU, the USA and Great Britain allowing the IDF to kill innocent civilians who have no arms, no military aeroplanes, no soldiers, no army but still get the phuck bombed out of them..?

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    Good morning BT:
    What do you want from the UN etc etc ? They can do nothing.There are now 2 groups in Gaza. Hamas and Jihadists (perhaps Fatah as well ,but not so active).Ok lets talk to Hamas, ( they will not, because it is Iran that tells them what to do,)then the Jihadists can fire away at us. Nobody there in Gaza wants peace! So your post describes the bombing,but not 190 rockets Hamas etc, fired on Israel. 190 rockets in 12 hours ???
    Elderly people and children were advised to sleep in Air raid shelters that night ,schools are closed .Resulting in tanks being moved down to the Gaza strip Area.
    Jihadists (? ) are firing now not far from Jerusalem and south Tel-Aviv. But we took out Jihadists in Damascus and in Gaza. But it looks like the projectile that hit the Independent Commission for Human Rights building in Gaza came from a terror rocket, not an Israeli airstrike. Initial reports blamed Israel but now they are backtracking. Images of damage inside and out indicate a Qassam-type rocket.
    Since the assassination of Baha Abu al-Atain in Gaza, and the strike against Akram al-Ajouri in Damascus, a confirmed total of 11 militants have been killed. Terrorist Abu Atta admitted he was planning major attacks in interview.The majority belonging to Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s military wing and several from Fatah’s al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
    https://youtu.be/OckvNyvqn5E
    https://youtu.be/l-wCqh-pyME

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    When is enough Balan? Every day I get newsfeeds of heavy handed IDF soldiers arresting kids for chucking a few bricks. The IDF really do remind me of the Nazis and Gestapo.

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    BT: Lets ask :
    Is throwing a rock at someone assault?
    Rock throwing during riots is a criminal offence, for which rock throwers can be charged with felony crimes, including assault on a law enforcement officer.
    It is part of their culture as the song goes,
    mā fī khawf mā fī khawf, al-ḥajar ṣār klashnikūf,
    'There is no fear, there is no fear
    For the stone has become the Kalashnikov.
    A Palestinian mother has said:
    These children are the intifada . .If there is no solution, these children will one day throw more than stones because their hatred is great and they have nothing to hope for.

    How can young kids have hatred? They are taught to hate!!!!In schools and the Koran?

    ''Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.etc etc
    In 2010, Mohammed Morsi referred to “Zionists” as “bloodsuckers” and “descendants of apes and pigs” in two filmed interviews.
    (6 pm here now the news says 300 rockets fired from Gaza!!)and now 2 missiles coming in!!

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    Ester Ohana was the first Israeli killed by Palestinian stone-throwing. She was killed on 29 January 1983 when a stone was thrown through the window of the car in which she was a passenger, hitting her in the head.

    On 5 June 2001, Yehuda Shoham, a 5-month-old baby, was killed when a rock hurled by stone-throwing Palestinians crashed through the window of the car he was riding in, crushing his skull.

    On 23 September 2011, Asher (25) and Yonatan Palmer (1) were killed when the car Asher was driving was attacked by stone-throwing Palestinians, causing it to crash killing him along with his infant son.

    On 14 March 2013, the Biton's family car was attacked, near neighboring village of Kif el-Hares, with stones which caused it to get out of control and collide with a truck. Adele Biton was critically injured along with her mother and 3 sisters who were moderately injured, and died two years later.

    On 13 September 2015 Alexander Levlovich was killed by thrown rocks that caused his car to swerve out of control in a Jerusalem neighborhood.

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