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Thread: It's all a bit embarrassing

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    It's all a bit embarrassing

    The way we played with no urgency
    The way the ref was clearly out of his depth
    The way we couldn't put a mediocre side to the sword at home
    The way a 6 ft 4 striker couldn't win a header if he tried
    The way we lacked ideas or creativity to unlock a stubborn team.
    It's just all a little embarrassing.

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    Just one question Robin...
    Have you ever been at Ewood to see Rovers win a match at home?
    A scapegoat will be required

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    Yes just the once😂😂😂
    With my daughter against oxford so maybe I should bring her every time.

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    It might help

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    A massive let-down.
    Why has it so often been against the more limited teams that we have put in our worst displays, over the last two or three years?
    Until they scored, the match was going exactly as I hoped. Then we resorted to hit, hope and expecting something to happen instead of making it.
    Again, better at the start of the second half until they scored, but so few shots on target.
    Armstrong played as he so often has (lots of time on the ball, but no end-product). Dack, however, was hugely frustrating. He should be able to cause havoc aginst teams like Luton, but he so rarely got into dangerous positions, until right near the end.
    I felt sorry for Gallagher. He tries really hard, but it hasn't clicked yet. It could be that he needs a couple of lucky goals to get him going, as he just seems to lack the edge of confidence which makes a striker act more instinctively.
    It was a real pity that Rothwell couldn't be brought on. He might have been able to supply the element of surprise we badly missed.
    You know how you sometimes get a premonition? My wife heard me swearing when we couldn't unlock their defence, and I said, "I bet Pearson scores now!" (I had to explain). When I groaned a few minutes later, she said it was my fault for predicting it!
    Unfortunately, we haven't got a cat to kick.

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    It was an off day. But these days happen with increasing regularity in this league. It's so frustrating. They had just lost 4 in a row. We had won 2. They weren't going to lose 5 in s row. It rarely happens in at any level. Never mind this one.
    I do feel TM talked them up too much beforehand. And we worried about them too much. He set a negative tone beforehand. No positive enough. We started so well. Best we've played this season first 15. But in bad this sneaky feeling when we didn't get one one that spell, it could be a strange day. Then they scored with their first chance. Totally undeserved. Travis was excellent. And scored a top goal. Downing went sideways too much. And failed to put any quality in the box. Gallagher didn't have one chance created for him in 90 mins. I'm not worried about him. He isn't missing chances, or out of form. He isn't getting a chance. I'm worried about our lack of creativity at home. Not away. Away we are a very good side. Our system suits away, it depends on the oppo coming at us. At home we struggle to break solid banks down.
    Bennett has been vastly improved on his early season form. But he never crosses a ball in to any of our men. Cunningham doesn't cross a decent ball either. Neither go forward well at all. I'm not seeing Cunningham as an upgrade on Bell at all. He's a slightly better defender. But poor going forwards. Bell was much more decisive. And picked better passes. Same with Nyambe.
    Holtby showed he will be classy once hrs match fit and sharp.
    If Dack has an off day, Rovers will. If Dack plays well, we will. It's pretty simple.
    And Dack won't perform every week. I would expect him to. If we beat Forest on Tues this will be quickly forgotten. I'd have taken 3 points from these 2 games, considering we'd just won 2 in a row.
    4 points from the play offs. I'm more than happy with that. Every side I've seen is capable of an off day. We aren't exempt.

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    I expected 7 points from September we ended with 6,so slightly below expectations.
    On to October and a much tougher run of games on paper
    Of course as we know football isn't played on paper,otherwise we would of won yesterday.

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    We have 5 points more at that this stage than we did 12 months ago.
    Danny Graham will be back alongside Dack on Tues, and if Rothwell is fit and well, he'll come in instead of Armstrong.

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    Champs - on the Gallagher point, I just feel he doesn't yet spot the best space to run into, in the way Graham does. Two or three times, Downing looked up, obviously wanting to try a through-ball, but ended up passing short because nobody had made the right run. I thought Gallagher headed for the near-post too often, instead of varying it. As for Dack, we just have to accept that he has these days when he looks a bit clueless about losing his marker.
    I try to be generous about Armstrong, because he has some brilliant moments, but when did he ever look good for a whole 90 minutes? (Actually, I'd be happy with 60 or 70!)
    We looked full of confidence in the opening spell, but it seemed to evaporate after they scored.
    Being a football supporter is frustrating at times. I shouldn't be surprised, and I shouldn't let it get to me, but I must admit I was pretty certain we'd win that one. I'm old enough to know better!

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    Imagine driving back with 2 luton supporters in the back of the car.
    I feel bad as I spoilt their day a bit as I was that cross we had lost that one I just didnt talk.
    It was a long 3 hour journey for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    Champs - on the Gallagher point, I just feel he doesn't yet spot the best space to run into, in the way Graham does. Two or three times, Downing looked up, obviously wanting to try a through-ball, but ended up passing short because nobody had made the right run. I thought Gallagher headed for the near-post too often, instead of varying it. As for Dack, we just have to accept that he has these days when he looks a bit clueless about losing his marker.
    I try to be generous about Armstrong, because he has some brilliant moments, but when did he ever look good for a whole 90 minutes? (Actually, I'd be happy with 60 or 70!)
    We looked full of confidence in the opening spell, but it seemed to evaporate after they scored.
    Being a football supporter is frustrating at times. I shouldn't be surprised, and I shouldn't let it get to me, but I must admit I was pretty certain we'd win that one. I'm old enough to know better!
    Bloody frustrating. We both fully expected is to roll them over with relative ease with the form we'd been in. And first 15 mins felt like it was going to click nicely into place. But what do we remind ourselves every week Aucks? This league throws up surprises every round of matches. And sides rarely lose 5 in a row. I do feel they where there for the taking on Sat. Had we got a goal in the first 15 I do think we'd have won that game comfortably. They scored a very good first goal I felt. Sometimes you have to accept the oppo have done us and scored a good goal. The lad for them who caused us the most problems, beat Travis and put in a great cross. The lad did well to head it in with force.
    Gallagher had a poor game on Sat. And I do feel Graham made us look more dangerous when he came on. Which is why I think he will play vrs Forest. Dack will make a run, based on where he knows Graham will be, and have held it in to play him in. It works mainly due to the trust they both have in one another's ability. Dack doesn't know where to be when he plays with Gallagher. And both him, and Armstrong are too far apart. As is Dack. We just aren't making the most of who we have.
    I honestly feel we haven't seen the best of Brereton yet, because he's being asked to be something he isn't. A target man, or a winger. He is neither. And Gallagher is now being asked to be Danny Graham. Which he simply isn't. He is a big lad, good touch etc. We need to try find a system that suits players like him & Brereton, or they will ultimately fail here. Neither are Graham. Asking them to be as effective in that role, with the service they are provide, with the system behind them, isn't really fair.
    Throw Samuel in this mix aswell. What will happen with him is, he will get fit. And get his chance up front in that CF role. Where he will be expected to win, and hold the ball up effectively and play in Dack or Armstrong/Rothwell. And also weigh in with goals. He will struggle to do either, because he is being asked to be somebody he isn't. So he will then be shoved out onto either wing to come on for Armstrong or Gallgher. We need to find a more effective system for when Graham doesn't play. As it only really works with just him, and Dack needs to be on form.
    I do feel Holtby will have a positive impact on this side. We need someone who will try that tricky pass. It will not always work, but when it does it's worth the gambles.
    Another factor in why none of our strikers are getting any goals, is our something within our system. Our out ball in almost 8 out of every 10 attacks is either Bennett or Cunningham. And neither are putting any quality in at any point. They rarely beat the first defender, or it's too high and long. I really do feel Bennett would be way more effective than Johnson. I'm not a big fan of him, one paced, gives the ball away alot, doesn't create much. And doesn't offer enough defensive cover. I think Bennett needs to go in alongside Travis. I think he'd be a better influence on Travis aswell. I really want to see what Rankin Costello can do. Let's get him in and see how he performs. He must get a chance this lad. Johnson is good to have on the bench and coming on around the 65 min mark of games. I feel he would always do a better job of suring things up than Evans would, coming into a game as Sub.
    I think Rothwell, if feeling 100% again, will start on Tues aswell. I keep looking at that second goal of theirs on Sat and wondering if Tosin had been playing would Pearson had such an easy header. I was very disappointed in Lenihan on that one. He is normally very commanding but I did feel on Sat, as soon as they scored our defence looked a little unconfident.
    I'd get Tosin back in vrs Forest and play 3 at the back with wing backs.

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    Champs, I believe that having Dack as an almost certain selection is part of the problem. I'm not suggesting he should be dropped, but I agree with you that we have four or five others who would be best suited by his "secondary striker" role. As it is, they have to take turns in this "wide forward" spot that none of them look consistently comfortable in!
    I also agree that Dack looks better when Graham is playing. For one thing, he doesn't seem to drop deep so often.
    I have several times thought it might be worth trying 3-4-1-2, with Rothwell as the "1", behind Dack and Graham. With Rothwell having the free role, Dack could concentrate on what he does best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    Champs, I believe that having Dack as an almost certain selection is part of the problem. I'm not suggesting he should be dropped, but I agree with you that we have four or five others who would be best suited by his "secondary striker" role. As it is, they have to take turns in this "wide forward" spot that none of them look consistently comfortable in!
    I also agree that Dack looks better when Graham is playing. For one thing, he doesn't seem to drop deep so often.
    I have several times thought it might be worth trying 3-4-1-2, with Rothwell as the "1", behind Dack and Graham. With Rothwell having the free role, Dack could concentrate on what he does best.
    I think while Dack is at this club, 4 or 5 won't flourish. He is bringing in players who do have potential, but we aren't getting much out of them. I agree, get Dack further up front. Holtby can unlock teams, Rothwell also has that in his locker. With Dack being so tightly marked, someone somewhere is in a tonne of space. And we aren't capatalising. It will be interesting to see what side he is going to play tonight, and what formation. He always throws a fee surprises in. Wonder what tonight's will be? Can't see us losing 2 in a row.

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