Derby v Luton

[ramAnag]

‘Shinnie was my man of the match. He was brilliant in the 1st half. Less so in the 2nd but still good. Great debut’.

Not so ‘crap’ then, GP and Adi.

The mystery continues...why have we waited two months for a debut from a player who ‘tackles, passes and covers lots of ground’?

Probably only played yesterday because Huddlestone injured himself taking a penalty, but a wholehearted mobile midfielder is what we’ve been crying out for for years. Sure he was also captain in Scotland. Puzzling.

[MadAmster]

‘Shinnie was my man of the match. He was brilliant in the 1st half. Less so in the 2nd but still good. Great debut’.

Not so ‘crap’ then, GP and Adi.

The mystery continues...why have we waited two months for a debut from a player who ‘tackles, passes and covers lots of ground’?

Probably only played yesterday because Huddlestone injured himself taking a penalty, but a wholehearted mobile midfielder is what we’ve been crying out for for years. Sure he was also captain in Scotland. Puzzling.

They weren't my thoughts Ra. I saw Clarke in because of the Huddlestone injury replacing Bielik in the back 4 who moved to DM. I saw Shinnie in for Holmes.

The change that got me was FloJo in for Waggy? No idea why before, during or after the game.

With regard to the Hudds injury. He hit the penalty, moved away left and showed no sign of a problem. He was then barged, totally unnecessarily, by a Barnsley defender off the ball and that was when he, for me, picked up the injury.

Shinnie. Has it been a case of "I didn't buy him" or was there a fitness question or ........ what? He's played and done well in the U23s and I had started to think he might have upset somebody...... a mystery indeed.

[ramAnag]

Probably right MA, either way...the point is we have waited two months for Shinnie to appear and then only because of injury.
The DT appears in complete agreement with you about Shinnie’s performance, tenacity, appearing to be the key word.
That, imo, is what we’ve been missing in midfield for years so I hope it was a fitness issue and not a case of ‘I didn’t buy him’ which would be disappointing.

[AdiSalisbury]

‘Shinnie was my man of the match. He was brilliant in the 1st half. Less so in the 2nd but still good. Great debut’.

Not so ‘crap’ then, GP and Adi.

The mystery continues...why have we waited two months for a debut from a player who ‘tackles, passes and covers lots of ground’?

Probably only played yesterday because Huddlestone injured himself taking a penalty, but a wholehearted mobile midfielder is what we’ve been crying out for for years. Sure he was also captain in Scotland. Puzzling.

Happy to be wrong. Long may it continue!

[ramAnag]

Happy to be wrong. Long may it continue!

Sigh...if only you’d admit the same about ‘Remain’.

[Manofpride]

Probably right MA, either way...the point is we have waited two months for Shinnie to appear and then only because of injury.
The DT appears in complete agreement with you about Shinnie’s performance, tenacity, appearing to be the key word.
That, imo, is what we’ve been missing in midfield for years so I hope it was a fitness issue and not a case of ‘I didn’t buy him’ which would be disappointing.

I watched the Cocu interview after the match and he mentioned that about two weeks ago Shinnie had approached him about how he could improve as a player and what was needed to get into the the match day squad. He told Shinnie that he had been playing in a different leage and had to be able to get used to the style of play and to keep training hard as he had done and his opportunity will come.

[ramAnag]

I watched the Cocu interview after the match and he mentioned that about two weeks ago Shinnie had approached him about how he could improve as a player and what was needed to get into the the match day squad. He told Shinnie that he had been playing in a different leage and had to be able to get used to the style of play and to keep training hard as he had done and his opportunity will come.

Surely the same could be said about Bielik, Clarke and Lowe...so still puzzled.

[Geoff Parkstone]

indeed it could be said of the entire squad having to get used to a new manager every year, with their own playing style which suits some, but not all. Example: Chris Martin who has successfully (so far at least) come back in from the cold under the Cocu style. If we had a manager for more than a year then we wouldn't keep having this problem every season.

I don't think its all about getting used to the league, after having played in another one, but rather getting used to what the manager wants. So I guess this means that Wazzer won't be in the first few squads in January?

[Andy_Faber]

indeed it could be said of the entire squad having to get used to a new manager every year, with their own playing style which suits some, but not all. Example: Chris Martin who has successfully (so far at least) come back in from the cold under the Cocu style. If we had a manager for more than a year then we wouldn't keep having this problem every season.

I don't think its all about getting used to the league, after having played in another one, but rather getting used to what the manager wants. So I guess this means that Wazzer won't be in the first few squads in January?

Someone should have hired a fortune teller to show Schteeve the Newcastle job was a poison chalice, then we wouldn't be having this discussion

[ramAnag]

Someone should have hired a fortune teller to show Schteeve the Newcastle job was a poison chalice, then we wouldn't be having this discussion

That’d be Schteeve ‘one good season in the last nine’ McClaren would it?