Politics Thread for David Reid. (R.I.P.)

[sinkov]

I think you ought to ring your mates at Tory Central and ask them to put their own house in order too mon ami...

Alan Duncan the ex Tory MP, who served as a Foreign Office minister under Theresa May, claimed the Conservative Friends of Israel group was “doing the bidding of Netanyahu” and called for two of its prominent members: Lord Polak and Lord Pickles; to be “removed from the House of Lords”.

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What has this got to do with the Anti-Semitism rife on the Left in general and in the Labour Party in particular ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It's no wonder anti-Semitism is on the rise is it mon ami?

You don't even need to lift a stone anymore to see if it crawls out, it's everywhere.

[kritichris]

Chris, how is the situation in Gaza worse than what is described in Post 42 ?

Sorry sinky, not been in this thread for awhile so I wasn't ignoring you. Figures are hard to verify but I think civilian caualties in the Ukraine are around 30k over a 2 year period whilst in Gaza they are reportedly about the same number in a much shorter time and in a much more concentrated area, it does seem like genocide. Whether the palestinians fully support Hamas or are being used by them is also difficult to assess, the whiole thing is a mess.

[sinkov]

Sorry sinky, not been in this thread for awhile so I wasn't ignoring you. Figures are hard to verify but I think civilian caualties in the Ukraine are around 30k over a 2 year period whilst in Gaza they are reportedly about the same number in a much shorter time and in a much more concentrated area, it does seem like genocide. Whether the palestinians fully support Hamas or are being used by them is also difficult to assess, the whiole thing is a mess.

No probs Chris, the situation for civilians in Gaza has been exacerbated by the deliberate placing of their military amongst the civilian infrastructure, thus when the IDF attack Hamas, as they have every right and indeed duty to do, innocent civilians will suffer as Hamas have chosen to use their own people, the ones they have been elected to protect, as human shields, and schools, hospitals etc as military bases. Thus the high civilian casualty rate, nothing to do with genocide imo, if the Israelis really wanted to commit genocide they could wipe out the entire population of Gaza in not much more than the blink of an eye.

In comparison the Russian attacks on the civilian population of Mariupol had no justification whatsoever. There are videos of Russian tanks rumbling unopposed down deserted streets, just taking pot shots at residential apartment blocks, just apparently for the fun of it. Mass graves, piles of dead bodies, countless thousands of innocent civilians slaughtered, no one is sure of the exact number, and for what ? The Ukranian army were were not embedded in the civilian infrastructure, there was no military reason for such enormous slaughter of innocent civilians.

The IDF has caused many civilian deaths in an attempt to engage their enemy, the Russians have killed thousands of civilians seemingly for fun, or at least for no apparent reason. But the IDF is worse ? I don't get it Chris.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

No probs Chris, the situation for civilians in Gaza has been exacerbated by the deliberate placing of their military amongst the civilian infrastructure, thus when the IDF attack Hamas, as they have every right and indeed duty to do, innocent civilians will suffer as Hamas have chosen to use their own people, the ones they have been elected to protect, as human shields, and schools, hospitals etc as military bases. Thus the high civilian casualty rate, nothing to do with genocide imo, if the Israelis really wanted to commit genocide they could wipe out the entire population of Gaza in not much more than the blink of an eye.

In comparison the Russian attacks on the civilian population of Mariupol had no justification whatsoever. There are videos of Russian tanks rumbling unopposed down deserted streets, just taking pot shots at residential apartment blocks, just apparently for the fun of it. Mass graves, piles of dead bodies, countless thousands of innocent civilians slaughtered, no one is sure of the exact number, and for what ? The Ukranian army were were not embedded in the civilian infrastructure, there was no military reason for such enormous slaughter of innocent civilians.

The IDF has caused many civilian deaths in an attempt to engage their enemy, the Russians have killed thousands of civilians seemingly for fun, or at least for no apparent reason. But the IDF is worse ? I don't get it Chris.

Even the high profile Jews are ashamed of this genocidal madness...

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You have to hand it to the Tories and their true blue supporters their diversionary tactics are a joy to behold.

[Supersub6]

Even the high profile Jews are ashamed of this genocidal madness...

When is she going out to Gaza to express her opinoin? That would really be showing the residents how she feels and she could be a peacemaker if she feels to strongly about it.

[Balanbam00]

Does she know what she is talking about??

Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The attacks, widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by the United Nations, the European Union, and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. The international community considers indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets to be illegal under international law. Palestinian militants say rocket attacks are a response to Israel's blockade of Gaza, but the Palestinian Authority has condemned them and says rocket attacks undermine peace.

[sinkov]

Even the high profile Jews are ashamed of this genocidal madness...

I think it's called Virtue Signalling, it's rife amongst the acting profession, even those of Jewish persuasion. If she didn't express such sentiments she wouldn't get any work.

[sinkov]

"Police under fire after threat to arrest ‘openly Jewish’ man near pro-Palestinian protest
Scotland Yard criticised after suggesting Gideon Falter’s presence was ‘provocative’ and he was ‘antagonising’ protesters"

It's not just the Labour Party, our Police are openly anti-semitic as well. Jews not welcome in the Labour party or on the streets of London.