Mcpake and Irvine

[jdfc]

I think the grocers son had a lot to do with it when he refused to sit in directors box at Dens,

[petermackie]

Play in testimonial, bad choice, go for a pint or pints bad choice, company....no the best, pub hmmmm, cock and bull denial least said.

I don't think Nelms has got much of a clue to be honest.

One thing though this myth about this being a friendly derby is just bulllll.

I'm taking it you know for a fact that the altercation was about football and that it was definitely a dab that was involved?

[Returnofrros]

I'm taking it you know for a fact that the altercation was about football and that it was definitely a dab that was involved?

Not 100% no.

Point 're derby stands alone anyway whether it was a dab, a slavering orange orc or a Christian fundamentalist that was involved with mcpake.

You think the derby has changed?

[petermackie]

Not 100% no.

Point 're derby stands alone anyway whether it was a dab, a slavering orange orc or a Christian fundamentalist that was involved with mcpake.

You think the derby has changed?

Not sure ...don't think it's as bad as you're making out...I think those of us who grew up in the 80s will always have a great dislike for all things tangerine...but don't see it going back to the days when the dabs got done in and chased down the Hulltoon after most derbies...from the dabs point of view the last Derby was...even though they don't like to admit it... they're chance of revenge...which probably heightened tensions on the night

[jdfc]

I think it’s got as bad as the 80’s, there are exchanges of punches between boys that don’t know each other happening in pubs and before and after matches, not on old firm scale, but it’s definitely not the friendly derby the media portray it as

[BCram]

Dosent read very well.

What I mean is our dislike/hatred (call it what you like) of them is almost 100% from us the fans and not really encouraged or stoked up from DFC themselves.

I believe through talking to folk who have been involved at high levels of both clubs and those that have played for both clubs that DUFC's hatred/dislike of DFC and their fans comes from the club itself and seeps into their fan base.

I think McLean had a grudge but I think it's never really been the same since The blessed Eddie got involved at tannadice and it's carried on since then.

Not sure if you were at the last derby but the walk to the game I felt their was a seethe in the general atmosphere that has been there in small doses in the past but not to that extent.

It may die off if we start playing more regularly again but em not 100% sure.

Maybe just getting older and see it more but it's something I've spoken about to guys that I go to the game with off and on recently.

Agree with you. Don't think we have any manipulation, by any of our directors, of our supporters attitude to our neighbours.