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Thread: O/T - general election 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER-64-FRANK View Post
    Yes it makes sense.
    I come from a different era to you, I go back to Harold Wilson.
    If Labour want to become electable they need to move back to centre, they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of communities rich or poor.
    As far as trust is concerned I wouldn’t trust any of today’s Politicians.
    The Tories are good at bending the truth when it suits.

    Satchi and Satchi anyone ?
    If only we had a Harold Wilson today

    Oh I agree 100% all politicians are a bunch of lying 🤥 sacks of 💩

    Brexit is like a thorn in labours foot that they won’t take out it will stop them winning any race until it’s taken out. Labour and Tory’s never agree on anything and I can see a lot of reverse phycology being used against labour because of this. They have been playing to Tory’s tune since Tory’s got back in

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    I'm hoping it is gonna be a freezing cold icy miserable day so that the old biddies cant get out to vote tory. You know the ones who vote anyone in in a blue rosette and a false clean cut image. The racists and greedy will be generally voting farage and Boris hopefully splitting the vote.

    Before anyone says I am gonna vote boris/ farage and i'm not greedy/ racist maybe you are not but you will be voting along side those who are.
    Last edited by rolymiller; 30-10-2019 at 11:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Haven't the other parties been banging the brexit drum with equal fervor though Silly? It is by far the most prominent issue affecting everyone's live in the upcoming years. I think labour have been supportive of leaving the EU and respecting the vote, but the problem is that their preferred method of leaving the EU is quite different to other parties, and the other parties are quite different to Labour's. That's why it's all so ****ed and is most likely to be despite a GE, simply because I can't see an election, where people revert to voting for traditional issues as well as Brexit, returning anything other than a minority government and each of the parties simply taking up the arguments that they had before the election. Unfortunately. But hey, let's give it a go.
    True all party’s are banging brexit drum and you would expect it from Tory’s, but you would expect labour to keep fighting things like pensions tv licence P.I.P universal credit in parliament, maybe it’s just my opinion but I think the only pensions labour give a crap about now is their own EU pension.

    Seriously what would be wrong in labour doing a deal with Tory’s to vote on brexit in exchange for benefit reforms lower pension age and a higher minimum wage or something else? It would give public more confidence in them as being the reasonable party.

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    I never thought I would see the day when I personally, for the first time in my life, would not be voting Labour.

    This is about Brexit but for me the way I have seen my town disintegrate into a ghost town awash with immigrants, yes I'm saying immigrants, and run by a Council who simply do not care. Don't get me started on the CSE that has brought shame to the town whilst those in charge knew what was happening and could have dealt with it earlier. I don't get why the folk of Rotherham would want labour to be in charge of our town the next time the elections are up to vote on.

    Corbyn spouts crap and he is awash with false promises and statements of what Labour intend to do if elected. He hasn't even explained how Labour would fund all they have said will take place. Also a man who wants to remove our nuclear deterrent and wave an olive branch instead.

    No enough is enough and going forward, Labour have lost my vote both as a party and more so locally come the next elections.
    They have not respected a democratic vote to leave and that was the people's right to vote and leave the European Union. Given the chance they would quash the vote and remain totally disregarding a democratic vote that won!

    Politicians, they're all in it for themselves with little regard for who voted them in. They don't listen they don't care. There is only one party for now, who are looking to get us out of the European Union and they are getting my vote.
    Last edited by Brin; 30-10-2019 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Labour are pretty good at bending the truth.Promising students' fees would be abolished and after the election admitted they could not deliver that, after they had captured the youngster's votes which was disgaceful.The fact they were conning students and at the same time telling leavers that they would honour the referendum just to pinch votes was not very honest.If only we could get politicians to sit in a lie detetector chair as they spout their promiises.
    You could say the exact same thing about the Libdems when Clegg shafted students. Jo Swinson was part of that Lib / Con coalition and voted on issues without giving a thought about future elections. Probably one of the reasons the electorate rejected them.
    Abolishing student fees could be back in the next Labour Manifesto. If it is let’s be knowing how it will be funded.

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    You will change your mind Brin when the Brexit party is outed for the racist and far right party it is and totally anti working class. Unless you are happy with that?

    You are also being conned by them into thinking this is a one issue election. It aint just about Brexit and you would be very naive to think it was. The Brexit party has nowt tosay on any other issues and I wonder why...hmm
    Last edited by rolymiller; 30-10-2019 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    I never thought I would see the day when I personally, for the first time in my life, would not be voting Labour.

    This is about Brexit but for me the way I have seen my town disintegrate into a ghost town awash with immigrants, yes I'm saying immigrants, and run by a Council who simply do not care. Don't get me started on the CSE that has brought shame to the town whilst those in charge knew what was happening and could have dealt with it earlier. I don't get why the folk of Rotherham would want labour to be in charge of our town the next time the elections are up to vote on.

    Corbyn spouts crap and he is awash with false promises and statements of what Labour intend to do if elected. He hasn't even explained how Labour would fund all they have said will take place. Also a man who wants to remove our nuclear deterrent and wave an olive branch instead.

    No enough is enough and going forward, Labour have lost my vote both as a party and more so locally come the next elections.
    They have not respected a democratic vote to leave and that was the people's right to vote and leave the European Union. Given the chance they would quash the vote and remain totally disregarding a democratic vote that won!

    Politicians, they're all in it for themselves with little regard for who voted them in. They don't listen they don't care. There is only one party for now, who are looking to get us out of the European Union and they are getting my vote.
    Arent the tories getting you out of the EU though Brin - why aren't they enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    You will change your mind Brin when the Brexit party is outed for the racist and far right party it is and totally anti working class. Unless you are happy with that?

    You are also being conned by them into thinking this is a one issue election. It aint just about Brexit and you would be very naive to think it was. The Brexit party has nowt tosay on any other issues and I wonder why...hmm
    Because it’s the only issue that matters at the moment? Yes there’s other issues but none of them will get sorted no matter who gets in power until brexits over.

    Brexit party isn’t racist what proof do you have that they are a labour leaflet? A labour mp said so? Seriously if propaganda was proof corbyn would be hitler reincarnated boris would be a woman beater and leader of greens would be having relations with a tree

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

    Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

    I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time.
    The lib dems only declared their hand about revolking brexit to win cheap votes because it,s the only way they will get marginally more votes than their usual paltry amounts. Hopefully the voting public will have seen right through their insincere tactics
    I know you like a good wind up so i,ll assume you,re doing it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Any ****ing point in voting? Majority have been ignored when voting in brexit

    I would never vote Corbyn
    That sentiment applies to all grown ups

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