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Thread: Kiko Casilla

  1. #41
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    Ok, head in link mouth but since.when did I give a sh1t......it's not the role of the gk to guide the defence, that's the captai/coach responsibility. Casilla wasn't responsible for the management of the defensive line, and therefore wasn't required to make any comment to anyone other than his captain (maybe). And in any case if he's going to communicate DO IT IN ENGLISH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    Ok, head in link mouth but since.when did I give a sh1t......it's not the role of the gk to guide the defence, that's the captai/coach responsibility. Casilla wasn't responsible for the management of the defensive line, and therefore wasn't required to make any comment to anyone other than his captain (maybe). And in any case if he's going to communicate DO IT IN ENGLISH!
    Hmmmm...Not sure I agree with that WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezleeds View Post
    Sorry, what's your point?
    Some say ................... and I would say the Racial aggravated matter is no more or less serious to his alleged implied behaviour - both are serious and both deserve punishment if proven Jez.

    Subjective refers to personal perspectives (feelings or opinions) entering the decision making process.
    Objective refers to the elimination of subjective perspectives and a process that is purely based on hard facts.

    A breach of Rule E3 (1) is an “Aggravated Breach” where it includes a reference, whether express or implied, to any one or more of the following :- ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, religion or belief, gender, gender reassignment, ***ual orientation or disability.

    Rule E3 (1) relates to conduct and states:
    “A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour”.
    The wording of the above clause is extremely wide and whilst it does of course cover conduct on the pitch, it also covers conduct off the pitch.
    Leeds have previous of this breach namely Cellinos son Ed's comments on Facbook I recall.
    If a supporter of Leeds United or any club was charged with similar and found guilty they would receive a severe banning order.
    I was objective in my opinion.
    MOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Hmmmm...Not sure I agree with that WTF.
    Any team I played in, it was expected of the goalkeeper to marshall the defence, given the view he had. Coach would demand he was vocal in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior View Post
    Some say ................... and I would say the Racial aggravated matter is no more or less serious to his alleged implied behaviour - both are serious and both deserve punishment if proven Jez.

    Subjective refers to personal perspectives (feelings or opinions) entering the decision making process.
    Objective refers to the elimination of subjective perspectives and a process that is purely based on hard facts.

    A breach of Rule E3 (1) is an “Aggravated Breach” where it includes a reference, whether express or implied, to any one or more of the following :- ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, religion or belief, gender, gender reassignment, ***ual orientation or disability.

    Rule E3 (1) relates to conduct and states:
    “A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour”.
    The wording of the above clause is extremely wide and whilst it does of course cover conduct on the pitch, it also covers conduct off the pitch.
    Leeds have previous of this breach namely Cellinos son Ed's comments on Facbook I recall.
    If a supporter of Leeds United or any club was charged with similar and found guilty they would receive a severe banning order.
    I was objective in my opinion.
    MOT
    Ah ok - i didn't realise you were agreeing with me.

    Let's hope this gets dealt with quickly. If he does need to be banned, we need the two younger goalkeepers playing in the next few games with them looking more winnable perhaps than the later ones in a 12 game ban.

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    We can loan you a goalkeeper Jez..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    Any team I played in, it was expected of the goalkeeper to marshall the defence, given the view he had. Coach would demand he was vocal in that regard.
    Yep,same here Oz...but that was 50 years ago..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Yep,same here Oz...but that was 50 years ago..lol
    Nothing has changed over time pal. Every game I watch in any league around the world, the keepers are playing traffic cops and yelling instructions to those in front of them.

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    Any of them do it in a foreign language? Maybe a clever if flawed smokescreen to avoid the opposition understanding.

    Might explain the Derby debacle. 'Leave it coops i've got it covered. Doh I forgot you weren't Spanish.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezleeds View Post
    Any of them do it in a foreign language? Maybe a clever if flawed smokescreen to avoid the opposition understanding.

    Might explain the Derby debacle. 'Leave it coops i've got it covered. Doh I forgot you weren't Spanish.'
    😃😃😃

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