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    Away from on the pitch

    When is something going to be done about the mud bath at the Coxy turnstiles, every time it rains any one entering via the last four turnstiles has to wade through this mud, this has been like this since it was built, itís not a hard fix, even some sand bags could be used as a temporary measure if the club donít want to spend money on the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    When is something going to be done about the mud bath at the Coxy turnstiles, every time it rains any one entering via the last four turnstiles has to wade through this mud, this has been like this since it was built, itís not a hard fix, even some sand bags could be used as a temporary measure if the club donít want to spend money on the ground
    First mentioned this in 2009, changing ends 2010, employing a fll time respected stadium manager in a tip of stadium 2011 or maybe 12.

    The tree outside main entrance I dealt with myself a few years back... but growing back again now.

    When you go to the high stand though I believe there's a gleaming Dens park with the Derry steps open, all games played under the lights with a standing area and polished seats for those that prefer.

    Wasting your breath mate whilst alive and kicking though.

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    heard this complaint often and have done for years
    the clubs really lucky that no one has had an accident so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaded View Post
    heard this complaint often and have done for years
    the clubs really lucky that no one has had an accident so far
    Itís actually sad that it takes an accident to get things sorted, whatís wrong with the most respected coming to work with his jeans on one day, borrow a shovel from the grounds man and move the stuff, then the purchase of a dozen or so sand bags, job done, he is the man in charge of the stadium after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    Itís actually sad that it takes an accident to get things sorted, whatís wrong with the most respected coming to work with his jeans on one day, borrow a shovel from the grounds man and move the stuff, then the purchase of a dozen or so sand bags, job done, he is the man in charge of the stadium after all
    I'd rather somebody came along put our best players on the park and we went out and attacked... I'd accept muddy shoes to see that 😂

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    Sand bags would have little worthwhile effect, the water would go somewhere else or would find a way through the bags. It needs proper drainage, easy enough done with a few shovels by making the run off toward the wall rather than away from it and filling the trough with aggregate - could possibly employ sandbags to help direct the water to the run off. Water would find a a way through the Provie wall and away.

    Meantime we're swimming to the matches and getting barkit, absolute fkn disgrace. Can't wait til it turns to ice.

    Have been against changing to The Shankly, as proposed by RRoS amongst others, but after recent goings on I'm turning toward that opinion too.

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    Still live in hope of some hose storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Sand bags would have little worthwhile effect, the water would go somewhere else or would find a way through the bags. It needs proper drainage, easy enough done with a few shovels by making the run off toward the wall rather than away from it and filling the trough with aggregate - could possibly employ sandbags to help direct the water to the run off. Water would find a a way through the Provie wall and away.

    Meantime we're swimming to the matches and getting barkit, absolute fkn disgrace. Can't wait til it turns to ice.

    Have been against changing to The Shankly, as proposed by RRoS amongst others, but after recent goings on I'm turning toward that opinion too.
    Curious, how receptive would Nelms and co be to the idea of changing ends if a proper survey of fans opinion was undertaken.

    I would think there would be a majority for now.

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    Bit of a Eurovision buff, having tipped 5 oot the last 8 winners and like a complicated convuluted voting system.

    Here's my structure.

    Adult season tic holder in cox 2 votes.

    Wrinkly season ticket in cox 1 vote.

    Adult season tic Derry 1 vote

    Wrinkly season tic Derry half a vote.

    Adult main stand 1 vote.

    Wrinkly main stand half a vote.

    Patg customer half a vote.

    Deewok to have casting if a tie.

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    It’ll never happen, maybe if it wasn’t a normal fans suggestion, and came from within the club it may have been giving some thought.

    Why not trial it whilst in the championship, surely no hard to put smaller crowds in Cox and see how it pans out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Curious, how receptive would Nelms and co be to the idea of changing ends if a proper survey of fans opinion was undertaken.

    I would think there would be a majority for now.
    John Nelms doesn't give a **** about fans' opinions. I do see why it wouldn't be 'practical' or 'preferred' but obviously there are ways to mitigate most risks identified through doing it. Biggest barrier might be the location of the club shop, not ideal having Weegies milling about and pishing against it while shouting 'aye but n'at big man' when we have kids and normal adults going in there to buy scarves and to pick up tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    John Nelms doesn't give a **** about fans' opinions. I do see why it wouldn't be 'practical' or 'preferred' but obviously there are ways to mitigate most risks identified through doing it. Biggest barrier might be the location of the club shop, not ideal having Weegies milling about and pishing against it while shouting 'aye but n'at big man' when we have kids and normal adults going in there to buy scarves and to pick up tickets.
    I wonder if there was any thought at all when the stands were built.

    I mean when was the meeting was "There's our noisiest fans down there, let's put the rest of our fans up here along with shop"

    I honestly think the Derry culling, the spread of our fans and the inability to win a toss in a big game (only half joking) and shoot downhill in the 2nd half is killing the atmosphere at Dens.

    Wasn't there on Friday but been told our fans were so quiet and accepting of defeat from half time, something to do with direction we were shooting?

    We keep doing the same things year on year on year on year, with the same inevitable results.......so fricking frustrating.

    Just seems to be no one in Dens or who has the ear of Nelms who can give him any pointers from a fans point of view.

    Shop slightly Impractical I agree but it would maybe be a catalyst to do things differently, booths to collect tic or low and behold not having to buy a ****ing ticket for Alloa at home, utopia.

    It may not make a blind bit of difference, I may be completely wrong but if there's another team on the planet that seperates their own support then places the away support at the bottom of the brae giving away any home advantage I'd like to hear it.

    Yes there will be some a wee bit upset but if we encourage a younger more boisterous support and lose a few crabbit moaners in the process it may be a positive.

    Doubt very much anything will change though and I'll be posting this in 2 or 3 years time or I maybe sitting in campy nou quite happy with the world🙄

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    playing devils advocate and would imagine the police would point to where the away fans buses park,
    as to being the major issue.although i recognise that the location of most of the pubs means that fans are passing 1 another pre match anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaded View Post
    playing devils advocate and would imagine the police would point to where the away fans buses park,
    as to being the major issue.although i recognise that the location of most of the pubs means that fans are passing 1 another pre match anyway
    A lot of our games there's no police apart from most respecteds storm troopers.

    It's difficult and some issues to overcome but I think it would make a huge difference.

    Just as aside, I was trying to think of the amount of big games we have been level or behind at half time then stormed back up the hill 2nd half......compare with the amount of big games the dabs have been level or behind at half time and won shooting downhill towards the fancy dressed ones at tannadice.

    I'm really struggling to think of many at Dens for us.

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    yip i see the method in your thinking mate big big games where late important goals went in shooting doon the slope,aff the top o the head
    big mortens against Hearts
    its behind you against the dabs
    mccans against raith

    it shouldna make a difference to the pros which way they shoot however try telling that to hibs famous 5 shooting down the mother of all slopes at easter rd into their own fans

    would be interesting if an anorak raked through game reports from the 60's to present day and what points were won and the games scores turned around when we were shooting doon the slope in the 2nd half,might get a wee surprise at the outcome as you have to remember fans usually went behind the goal their team were shooting into so prob alot bigger difference since segregation started,if that makes sense lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    A lot of our games there's no police apart from most respecteds storm troopers.

    It's difficult and some issues to overcome but I think it would make a huge difference.

    Just as aside, I was trying to think of the amount of big games we have been level or behind at half time then stormed back up the hill 2nd half......compare with the amount of big games the dabs have been level or behind at half time and won shooting downhill towards the fancy dressed ones at tannadice.

    I'm really struggling to think of many at Dens for us.
    We shoot downhill first half far too often for it to be coincidence - funny, but I was just thinking about that the other day. Is it because they want to shoot toward the Dundee fans second half or is there some other reason? Whatever it is it definitely seems deliberate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    We shoot downhill first half far too often for it to be coincidence - funny, but I was just thinking about that the other day. Is it because they want to shoot toward the Dundee fans second half or is there some other reason? Whatever it is it definitely seems deliberate.
    Maybe just **** tossers.....no wait a minute that's them.

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    On a serious note it's because we lose most tosses and the away team wants to shoot DOWNHILL to OWN FANS 2nd half.

    Capital letters is for benefit of any of the Dens establishment sneaking a peak.

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    Wha was the last away team to win the toss and shoot downhill 1st half????

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