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Thread: Has Steve Bruce won over the fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    So only Rafa had to win you over?
    He never had to win me over. It's not about winning me over. It's simply acceptance of a manager and a hope any manager does a decent job.
    If they don't do a decent job then I naturally want them out like any would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    When one of his posts was quoted a few weeks back saying Bruce needs time to get the squad to gel and change from Rafa's style of play and management I was able to read the sh́te,but it was interesting in a way as the same man saying this was the one blaming Rafa for the last relegation.Didnt afford Rafa time to change mindset and get the team to gel.
    Wrong. By all means make up what you want but it doesn't make you right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherTerryMac View Post
    Bruce is not The Manager he is a Coach and has he won me over No
    He's team manager ands coach to me, like all team managers and coaches.
    If the word "coach" is bandied about and people want to stick to that, then fair enough. However, he does more than just coach. like all managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    He's team manager ands coach to me, like all team managers and coaches.
    If the word "coach" is bandied about and people want to stick to that, then fair enough. However, he does more than just coach. like all managers.
    His official title is Head Coach

    He does not manage the players. He has nothing to do with salaries, housing arrangements and transfers incoming or outgoing

    You can butter him up anyway you want but he is a million miles away from being Manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curian View Post
    As much as I want the team to do well but want Ashley out - Bruce is and was not a smart exchange for Rafa. It is about the ego of Ashley. Bruce would need to do something special not just finish 17th.

    I cannot comment on him personally though Shearer is his mate so cannot be all bad at that level not just not our level.
    What's all this 17th about?
    That's all I see with some. Oh Ashley wants 17th, it's clear.
    In his 12 years owning the club, how many times have we been 17th?

    Forget the relegations. He made sure we got back up on those.

    As for Bruce not being a smart exchange for Rafa. Rafa was nothing. He was a defensive, negative man for most of a season and then plays his get out of jail free cards as the season goes on.
    The man took us backwards with his ways. He did and it's as simple as that.

    Bruce may not be any answer. He may or may not do well.
    One thing he is doing is doing as good, if not better than Rafa in actually making the squad look better as each game comes.
    He at least looks like he's trying to gel the squad into a competent unit and is doing ok as it stands, on a portion of the fee Rafa was on and will not be asking for a massive rise in wages for doing worse as time goes on like Rafa tried.

    I think Bruce is a smart exchange for Rafa. Not exactly the best ideal change but I'd take most managers over Rafa. I think the man is/was on an ego trip and everyone was t blame but him.
    I didn't like the man as a manager but accepted him because I love the club and will go with the flow of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherTerryMac View Post
    His official title is Head Coach

    He does not manage the players. He has nothing to do with salaries, housing arrangements and transfers incoming or outgoing

    You can butter him up anyway you want but he is a million miles away from being Manager.
    Call him what you want. Head coach or whatever. He's manager of the team and coach among his coaches of the team/squad.
    I'm not interested in whether he buys houses and what not.

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    Steve Bruce is absolutely garbage as a coach. He has been lucky in fluking results v Spuds , Man City , Manure etc , where we conceded upwards of 70% possession and still got points . Luckily the bigger teams get complacent ,fall for our 9 man defence , drop to our level and we snatch points here and there . Man City were awful v us the other day , we have a lucky knack of teams turning in shocking performances against us .
    Luckily Norwich , Watford look gone already so we are battling for 17th with Soton, Villa, Everton and a few others .
    Fatty already thinks we are safe as Bruce Almighty has declared " we won't do much business in the January window" , straight from Ashley's mouth as Bruce has no input on transfers anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    What's all this 17th about?
    That's all I see with some. Oh Ashley wants 17th, it's clear.
    In his 12 years owning the club, how many times have we been 17th?

    Forget the relegations. He made sure we got back up on those.

    As for Bruce not being a smart exchange for Rafa. Rafa was nothing. He was a defensive, negative man for most of a season and then plays his get out of jail free cards as the season goes on.
    The man took us backwards with his ways. He did and it's as simple as that.

    Bruce may not be any answer. He may or may not do well.
    One thing he is doing is doing as good, if not better than Rafa in actually making the squad look better as each game comes.
    He at least looks like he's trying to gel the squad into a competent unit and is doing ok as it stands, on a portion of the fee Rafa was on and will not be asking for a massive rise in wages for doing worse as time goes on like Rafa tried.

    I think Bruce is a smart exchange for Rafa. Not exactly the best ideal change but I'd take most managers over Rafa. I think the man is/was on an ego trip and everyone was t blame but him.
    I didn't like the man as a manager but accepted him because I love the club and will go with the flow of the club.
    "You can say that all you want, it doesn't make it true!"

    Bruce has us playing worse...more negative football no matter how much your agenda wishes to ignore this.

    I wonder what all the Ashley appologisers will cling to when Bruce's record is not better than last season. ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    What's all this 17th about?
    That's all I see with some. Oh Ashley wants 17th, it's clear.
    In his 12 years owning the club, how many times have we been 17th?
    Just to explain (as if you didn't already know) it's an expression to indicate that Ashley has no ambition for Newcastle to succeed on the pitch. Of course he would like us to finish in the top 6 but he is making no reasonable effort to make this happen by making the club attractive to players and a manager good enough to have a chance of achieving this.

    In essence he would be pleased with 17th every season because it achieves his personal aim which is to make money from the club - a different objective to every real supporter.

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    He knows exactly what everyone means regards the 17th place quote,he just has to argue like a petulant spoilt child.Ashley could knock down St James Park and make us play on a local field and he would argue it was a good move.I dont know why people bother.
    How a so called Newcastle fan can champion a man that has overseen 2 relegations with his neglect is beyond me.A few of us blocked him because his views are guess what,the views of just about every mackem tramp out there,and that's what he is,100 percent Mackem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    He knows exactly what everyone means regards the 17th place quote,he just has to argue like a petulant spoilt child.Ashley could knock down St James Park and make us play on a local field and he would argue it was a good move.I dont know why people bother.
    How a so called Newcastle fan can champion a man that has overseen 2 relegations with his neglect is beyond me.A few of us blocked him because his views are guess what,the views of just about every mackem tramp out there,and that's what he is,100 percent Mackem.
    I don't think he is a Mackem, just a very strange individual...

    He just likes to go against majority view, like his ridiculous conspiracy theories, he thinks it hives him an edge...

    When and if we get a takeover with an owner we all like, then Wilf will no longer "go along with the club," he will find some bizarre reason to dislike the running if the club...it's what he does..

    Find an alternative view...defend it despite evidence..rinse and repeat...

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    Nah he ain't a Mackem he just likes to wind up people by being contrary .

    I wasn't the biggest fan of Benitez , especially the mass defending even against mediocre opposition . BUT he is about a million times the manager that Bruce is .
    The team are still adapting the Benitez system despite Bruce's half ar$ed input . We will surf the relegation zone all season and even if we go down I can see Bruce staying ... He is a total hoop licker with no ability , feeding off the Fat Kernt that owns us.

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    Best way is ifeveryone blocks him you know like he did to half the posters on here
    If he is blocked he doesn't get the debite he is looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by usedtobeshearer View Post
    "You can say that all you want, it doesn't make it true!"

    Bruce has us playing worse...more negative football no matter how much your agenda wishes to ignore this.

    I wonder what all the Ashley appologisers will cling to when Bruce's record is not better than last season. ..
    I'll cross that bridge when it comes down to it.
    Unless you've got a crystal ball.
    I said almost any manager could've done what Rafa did with us and I stand by it.
    Rafa had us going backwards and had over 3 years to do it.
    He's nothing and was overpaid massively.
    The man was and is a mercenary of the highest order..

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptoon View Post
    Just to explain (as if you didn't already know) it's an expression to indicate that Ashley has no ambition for Newcastle to succeed on the pitch. Of course he would like us to finish in the top 6 but he is making no reasonable effort to make this happen by making the club attractive to players and a manager good enough to have a chance of achieving this.

    In essence he would be pleased with 17th every season because it achieves his personal aim which is to make money from the club - a different objective to every real supporter.
    What about most other teams in the premier league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    He knows exactly what everyone means regards the 17th place quote,he just has to argue like a petulant spoilt child.Ashley could knock down St James Park and make us play on a local field and he would argue it was a good move.I dont know why people bother.
    How a so called Newcastle fan can champion a man that has overseen 2 relegations with his neglect is beyond me.A few of us blocked him because his views are guess what,the views of just about every mackem tramp out there,and that's what he is,100 percent Mackem.
    I'm arguing my side as much as you argue your side.
    Just accept it as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usedtobeshearer View Post
    I don't think he is a Mackem, just a very strange individual...

    He just likes to go against majority view, like his ridiculous conspiracy theories, he thinks it hives him an edge...

    When and if we get a takeover with an owner we all like, then Wilf will no longer "go along with the club," he will find some bizarre reason to dislike the running if the club...it's what he does..

    Find an alternative view...defend it despite evidence..rinse and repeat...
    It's not about going against majority view, it's about holding a set view on certain subjects, which happen to be the main subjects of hate Ashley and ridicule at every available turn, which take up a lot of the topics on the forum. I naturally do not follow that train of thought so instantly I'm contrary, obviously.

    Now people championed a man who commanded a 6 million a season pay cheque and whined his way through his tenure and conned the fans into thinking he was something magical if only Ashley would allow him to spend more than he got but bemoaned everything and called his own squad relegation material, just about.

    Then he leaves for his supposed amazing project when he apparently asked for a massive hike in his wages for having us finishing worse off.
    I'd argue if this was under a different owner, rafa wouldn't have been afforded that massiah like status.

    Now Bruce gets the job and people just don;t like him in some cases, so won;t give him the licking's of a dog.
    I simply back him as I did with Rafa at first. He now requires some time to see what he can do.

    That makes me a contrarian again.
    And so on and so on.
    So yeah, I will always end up arguing a different side when that's the mindset of people.

    Just accept it because I'll stand by what I say. I won't hide.
    And if I get proved wrong in anything I say, I'll admit it.

    Pretty simple really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Call him what you want. Head coach or whatever. He's manager of the team and coach among his coaches of the team/squad.
    I'm not interested in whether he buys houses and what not.
    I prefer to call him by his correct title Head Coach and he does not manage the team he coaches them as his title might suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek57 View Post
    No, and not convinced he ever will. He is just a part of what is wrong with the club and worse still, he knew what he was coming into and has happily embraced it.
    This for me

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