What's all this 17th about?
That's all I see with some. Oh Ashley wants 17th, it's clear.
In his 12 years owning the club, how many times have we been 17th?
Forget the relegations. He made sure we got back up on those.
As for Bruce not being a smart exchange for Rafa. Rafa was nothing. He was a defensive, negative man for most of a season and then plays his get out of jail free cards as the season goes on.
The man took us backwards with his ways. He did and it's as simple as that.
Bruce may not be any answer. He may or may not do well.
One thing he is doing is doing as good, if not better than Rafa in actually making the squad look better as each game comes.
He at least looks like he's trying to gel the squad into a competent unit and is doing ok as it stands, on a portion of the fee Rafa was on and will not be asking for a massive rise in wages for doing worse as time goes on like Rafa tried.
I think Bruce is a smart exchange for Rafa. Not exactly the best ideal change but I'd take most managers over Rafa. I think the man is/was on an ego trip and everyone was t blame but him.
I didn't like the man as a manager but accepted him because I love the club and will go with the flow of the club.
Steve Bruce is absolutely garbage as a coach. He has been lucky in fluking results v Spuds , Man City , Manure etc , where we conceded upwards of 70% possession and still got points . Luckily the bigger teams get complacent ,fall for our 9 man defence , drop to our level and we snatch points here and there . Man City were awful v us the other day , we have a lucky knack of teams turning in shocking performances against us .
Luckily Norwich , Watford look gone already so we are battling for 17th with Soton, Villa, Everton and a few others .
Fatty already thinks we are safe as Bruce Almighty has declared " we won't do much business in the January window" , straight from Ashley's mouth as Bruce has no input on transfers anyway.
"You can say that all you want, it doesn't make it true!"
Bruce has us playing worse...more negative football no matter how much your agenda wishes to ignore this.
I wonder what all the Ashley appologisers will cling to when Bruce's record is not better than last season. ..
Just to explain (as if you didn't already know) it's an expression to indicate that Ashley has no ambition for Newcastle to succeed on the pitch. Of course he would like us to finish in the top 6 but he is making no reasonable effort to make this happen by making the club attractive to players and a manager good enough to have a chance of achieving this.
In essence he would be pleased with 17th every season because it achieves his personal aim which is to make money from the club - a different objective to every real supporter.
He knows exactly what everyone means regards the 17th place quote,he just has to argue like a petulant spoilt child.Ashley could knock down St James Park and make us play on a local field and he would argue it was a good move.I dont know why people bother.
How a so called Newcastle fan can champion a man that has overseen 2 relegations with his neglect is beyond me.A few of us blocked him because his views are guess what,the views of just about every mackem tramp out there,and that's what he is,100 percent Mackem.