Boris it is

[1959_60]

Well, with five days to go before the election it looks like Boris will get his majority.

Whatever your views on politics I hope we can all agree that this election campaign has been the worst one ever in terms of the main two parties spinning lies and misinformation that we have ever had.

Dominic Cumminigs has come up trumps again with his tag line "Get Brexit Done". The number of people in the country who have repeated it in interviews shows that it has worked perfectly.
But we know (don't we?) that brexit will not be done for several more years yet (unless Boris refuses to extend the talks beyond next December and we leave with no deal).
Boris keeps insisting that there will be no barrier to trade between the UK and Northern Ireland. This is a blatant lie.

Meanwhile the Labour Brexit stance is totally preposterous. (Do I need to explain?)

The media has systematically choked off most coverage of The Brexit Party and the Lib Dems - despite there being an almost equal 4 way split in voting intentions a couple of months ago. As a result, these parties have lost considerable votes.

Take last nights leaders debate. Around half the nation want to remain but the debate was limited to two leave options. Not a dicky bird about climate change, social care or a whole host of things that many want to hear about.

The BBC tried to defend their decision to limit the debate to Boris and Jeremy by explaining that they looked at the 2017 election. But earlier this year in both the council and Euro elections the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party outvoted the Tories and Labour. And, like I say, at the time of the BBC's decision there was a virtual 4 way tie in the polls - and the electorate was so volatile that anything could have happened if all four parties had got equal air time.

The first past the post voting system is unfair to begin with but when the major media organisations decide to push the two party system on top of this then we end up with....a two party outcome.

Any road, Boris it is.

Are you happy?

[outwoodclaret]

In a word 59/60 No. I am having to vote Conservative when I am only doing so because of Brexit. For me the last Parliament utterly betrayed the electorate that is the 17.4 million of us who voted Leave in 2016. They decided that their Remainer majority of a handful of MPs counted for more than those who voted Leave. I am frankly furious about that. I don’t like Boris and I don’t like Farage but even less do I like getting 17 million f*ck offs from Westminster. Labour have almost entirely let me down at both local and national level. Their 2017 Manifesto promised to honour the Referendum result but they have just turned into another bunch of Remainers but with no credible Brexit policy. They keep on about building affordable housing but Bury Council (Labour of course) intends to build them all over the green belt in Radcliffe. The best thing for Labour to do is lose this election, ditch Corbyn and flush Momentum out of their system. I haven’t mentioned the Lib Dems but apart from Brexit I quite like them. Who knows one day when we get a fair voting system and we have left the EU I may even get to vote for a party I like.

[Altobelli]

The only thing that would make me happy is for most folk not to vote sending a message to those concerned that they are worthless lying cheating self serving muppets

[army88]

The only thing that would make me happy is for most folk not to vote sending a message to those concerned that they are worthless lying cheating self serving muppets

I’ve considered it Alto but then I can’t have a opinion and while I have breath in my body I refuse to let the labour terrorist run our country.
They are all underhand and horrible tbh but like out wood the better of evils is Boris as a brexit party vote could help Corbyn and that’s a now way vote.

[sinkov]

"Any road, Boris it is."

Jumping the gun a bit there 59, you know as well as I do that the polls are a bit like our horse racing tips, not to be relied upon 100%.

"Are you happy ?"

I'm certainly not convinced he will get a majority, but to go along with your premise, if he does indeed win with a workable majority then I will be deliriously happy, and the Pol Roger will emerge from the fridge on Friday night. And first toast will be to those millions who voted for Boris and saved our democracy from those who sought to wreck it, without a thought as to what horrors might replace it. The second one will be to Sir Nigel of Farage, who will no doubt be condemned to obscurity if Boris wins, but without whom we would still be shackled to the putrid corpse of the EU.

But as I said above, this is jumping the gun, it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

[1959_60]

Just for you Sinkov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVMXw_y7jyI

[The Bedlington Terrier]

A "Labour terrorist," FFS army88 behave?

[sinkov]

Well, with five days to go before the election it looks like Boris will get his majority.

Whatever your views on politics I hope we can all agree that this election campaign has been the worst one ever in terms of the main two parties spinning lies and misinformation that we have ever had.

Dominic Cumminigs has come up trumps again with his tag line "Get Brexit Done". The number of people in the country who have repeated it in interviews shows that it has worked perfectly.
But we know (don't we?) that brexit will not be done for several more years yet (unless Boris refuses to extend the talks beyond next December and we leave with no deal).
Boris keeps insisting that there will be no barrier to trade between the UK and Northern Ireland. This is a blatant lie.

Meanwhile the Labour Brexit stance is totally preposterous. (Do I need to explain?)

The media has systematically choked off most coverage of The Brexit Party and the Lib Dems - despite there being an almost equal 4 way split in voting intentions a couple of months ago. As a result, these parties have lost considerable votes.

Take last nights leaders debate. Around half the nation want to remain but the debate was limited to two leave options. Not a dicky bird about climate change, social care or a whole host of things that many want to hear about.

The BBC tried to defend their decision to limit the debate to Boris and Jeremy by explaining that they looked at the 2017 election. But earlier this year in both the council and Euro elections the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party outvoted the Tories and Labour. And, like I say, at the time of the BBC's decision there was a virtual 4 way tie in the polls - and the electorate was so volatile that anything could have happened if all four parties had got equal air time.

The first past the post voting system is unfair to begin with but when the major media organisations decide to push the two party system on top of this then we end up with....a two party outcome.

Any road, Boris it is.

Are you happy?

I think I can sum up your lengthy whinge quite succinctly 59,

'LibDem attempt to attain power by telling 17.4 million voters, including one third of their own voters, that they are morons, not fit to even have a vote, has spectacularly backfired'.

As it always was going to.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Well, with five days to go before the election it looks like Boris will get his majority.

Whatever your views on politics I hope we can all agree that this election campaign has been the worst one ever in terms of the main two parties spinning lies and misinformation that we have ever had.

Dominic Cumminigs has come up trumps again with his tag line "Get Brexit Done". The number of people in the country who have repeated it in interviews shows that it has worked perfectly.
But we know (don't we?) that brexit will not be done for several more years yet (unless Boris refuses to extend the talks beyond next December and we leave with no deal).
Boris keeps insisting that there will be no barrier to trade between the UK and Northern Ireland. This is a blatant lie.

Meanwhile the Labour Brexit stance is totally preposterous. (Do I need to explain?)

The media has systematically choked off most coverage of The Brexit Party and the Lib Dems - despite there being an almost equal 4 way split in voting intentions a couple of months ago. As a result, these parties have lost considerable votes.

Take last nights leaders debate. Around half the nation want to remain but the debate was limited to two leave options. Not a dicky bird about climate change, social care or a whole host of things that many want to hear about.

The BBC tried to defend their decision to limit the debate to Boris and Jeremy by explaining that they looked at the 2017 election. But earlier this year in both the council and Euro elections the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party outvoted the Tories and Labour. And, like I say, at the time of the BBC's decision there was a virtual 4 way tie in the polls - and the electorate was so volatile that anything could have happened if all four parties had got equal air time.

The first past the post voting system is unfair to begin with but when the major media organisations decide to push the two party system on top of this then we end up with....a two party outcome.

Any road, Boris it is.

Are you happy?

If we had invoked Proportional Representation we would have been out of the EU for three years now. Jo Swindle never stood a cat in hell's chance of winning this election.

On the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn is positioning himself as the “honest broker” and will stay out of personal campaigning in the event of a second referendum on a Labour-negotiated Brexit deal.

Corbyn has long advocated the Labour Party negotiates an orderly Brexit. Taking this “middle ground strategy” allows him to pitch himself as the neutral referee who pledges to carry out whatever the public decides.

This distances the Labour Party from the “Remain without a vote” advocated by Swindle's Lib Dems and the “Brexit at any cost deal” backed by Boris Johnson.

Corbyn supports the idea of a new customs union with the EU; a close single market relationship with our closest trading neighbours and one that guarantees workers’ rights and encourages environmental protections via the EU constitution.

I'm not at all happy with a second referendum, but this now seems pragmatic and reasonable to me.

[outwoodclaret]

Corbyn honest broker ?! ROFL. Labour will offer a choice of Remain or Leave that isn’t actually Leave and will campaign against their so-called credible Leave option anyway. Any Leaver worth their salt wouldn’t go near it. I don’t like Boris but when he says Brexit he means it and that seems pragmatic and reasonable to me!