It all depends for me Sub, if Boris gets a workable majority and we can leave the EU, then it's either the Pol Roger or the Bolly coming out of the fridge, perhaps even both. If Corbyn and his chums get in, then I'll sit back and enjoy watching the ensuing mayhem as the lefties and snowflakes get what they wanted, it's their future, good luck to them in it, I'm too old for it to bother me. If it's back to a hung parliament I shall take your advice, I'll give up any interest in politics whatsoever and just stick to footy, the gee-gees and holidays.
Afternoon Sinkov!
Get the bolly at the ready because nothing can stop Boris now.
As you know, I don't think either Boris or Jeremy are fit to run the country. I have come to this conclusion over many years watching them and listening to them with my own eyes and ears. I don't need to read the opinion pieces from any media outlet.
You must have seen and heard the same stuff as I have but you have reached a different view on Boris. (I think we basically agree on Jeremy?)
Being a 66 year old who has never voted for the winning party in a General Election I am used it by now and I will lose no sleep over it. But I can clearly see a lot of sh1te coming our way as a country with someone like Boris at the wheel.
But I am a little surprised at you. You are clearly happy with Boris's BRINO - which I thought you were dead against. Unless you think we will crash out with no deal next December when the trade talks have not been concluded and Boris refuses to extend the talks?
Me? I remain a firm Lib Dem supporter, activist, local councillor and eco-loon.
When we finally leave, either with or without a deal, I will be hoping and praying that the outcome is good for my country, my family and myself. But I am convinced that all of the above will be much poorer and less well regarded in the world.
We are currently the fifth richest nation on earth - let's see where we are when the dust has settled.
I'm off out to vote in half an hour 59, but I'm by no means convinced it's in the bag for Boris, not at all, another hung parliament would not surprise me in the least.
Yes I know all the guff about Boris, even if only half of it is true he's a bit of a reprobate isn't he. But it doesn't worry me, he's just the latest in a very long line of very dodgy politicians, and we've survived them before, we'll survive Boris. Is he really a more dubious character than say Jeremy Thorpe, who somehow virtually got away with murder, or Sir Cyril Smith, the notorious kiddy fiddler, protected by the Establishment, or Paddy Pantsdown, the virtuous, happily married man found to be banging his secretary every chance he got, or David Laws who had to resign from the Cabinet, and was suspended from the Commons, when he was found to be fiddling his expenses, or the liar Chris Huhne, 8 months at Her Majesty's pleasure for perverting the course of justice, or Cleggy with his notorious broken promises to students, or that silly man Farron, whose weird views on gay people brought about his downfall. You're a LibDem 59, as my old mum used to say, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. But you get my point, why should I worry about Boris, is he that different or worse ??
And no, I'm not happy about Boris's Brino, but it is better than May's Brino, and it's either that or we stay in the EU. So what choice does this poor boy have, Boris's Brino it is.
I hope you're having a good night Sinkov?
Well, we'll all have to suck it up now. In your case this means large quantities of Chateau de plonk. I my case large quantities of humble pie.
Ah, well. Roll on 2024
I am sure that the world will have ended up here in Ashington after last night's events!
Doom and gloom will be all around, in spite of the usual suspect being elected.
Life will go on and people will adopt a negative attitude and tell me how bad things are whilst going in to get their nails done or their teeth whitened on their way to the food bank.
I do wonder how the hell me and the missus have survived for 72+ years without ever having nails done or teeth whitened etc., etc. ----perhaps it is because we never had the spare cash or could it be that we have accepted life as it is and have never been wannabees?
Ah well, another day, another dollar and still paying taxes to keep the locals happy. It's a great life!
Yes it was a good night 59, I was always a a bit dubious until I saw the Tories had won Burnley, then I went to bed happy, if they had taken Burnley, then it was going to be a stonking majority for sure, and Brexit would get done.
My commiserations, you must be disappointed, and although I know you have to follow the party line as a member and councillor, did you really think it a good idea to propose revoking A50 and telling 17.4 million people in a democracy that their votes didn't count ? It seemed lunacy to me at the time, and so it's proved.
sinkov---very strange to see Blyth Valley going blue after 69 years consecutive Labour/Independent Labour and also my own constituency, where the incumbent is the Chairman of the Labour Party, saw his majority reduced from over 10,000 to 814!
I never thought that I would see the day when a Tory would get in at Blyth!
Sedgefield was also a big surprise ----come in Tony Blair!
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Aye, some amazing results last night - I still can't believe that Burnley has gone Tory....
And yes. Our revoke A50 policy backfired badly and turned out to be a monumental error.
At the time the Lib Dems were riding very high having just had terrific local and Euro election results and were sometimes actually ahead in the polls.
That one policy turned off loads of our new supporters and Jo must be reflecting on it today.
In the event we had about one in eight people voting Lib Dem which, in a fair system, would result in over 80 MP's. We got just eleven.
Perhaps looking at this should be Boris's first priority?
59_60 --this has always been something which I have felt needed changing in order to give a fairer representation, however, they just seem to ignore it and just change borders around every so often to try to ensure that whoever is in power will have a good chance next election!