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  1. #11
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    He will, Mista, he will

    Unless he decides to blame you

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    Oh dear! Where to start? I'll go back to the most recent away defeat. Pretty abysmal at best. Then there's a tete a tete before training on Monday in which everybody was encouraged to have their say. It is said that the training session that followed was full of more passion and effort than normal.

    1st half last night it looked like all the passion and energy was still on Monday's training pitch. Did SW grasp the initiative or did we give it to them? Whatever, they came out of the blocks pressing us high up and forcing errors which led to us giving the ball away. They gave us no time to control the ball, never mind do anything constructive with it. When they had the ball, we backed off, gave them time, gave them space, all of which was used to put us under the pressure of an aerial bombardment which, in any other game this season, would have seen us crumble. That we only conceded 1 in the 1st half and that that was due to an uncharacteristically awful pass from Fozzy is a welcome surprise. More by luck than good judgment we went in at HT with only 0-1 on the scoreboard. That was ana woeful 45 minutes from Derby. Seemed to wake up for the last 5 minutes of the half and had 2 "shots" both of which were high, wide and not very mighty. I feared the worst and expected more of the same in the 2nd half.

    I was somewhat surprised by the 2nd half. Opening seconds Martin heads over (we still don't have a headed goal this season....). 1st half they ruled the roost. 1st half of the 2nd half was pretty much even stevens with SW possibly just in the ascendancy. From 65/70 minutes on we started to get the better of the game and went more direct ourselves and on 68, Marriott and Waggy replaced Knight and Whittaker. We were going to go for it. Why we didn't from the off is anybody's guess. I am still undecided as to whether they put one over on us or that we simply didn't compete for the first 35 to 40 minutes. We got the upper hand and, on 82 minutes, got a penalty which Martin buried. Even if their keeper had gone the right way he would never have got to it. After that we had enough (half) chances to grab all 3 points. I would have loved to have seen that happen but, in all fairness, over the 90 we just about did enough to earn a draw.

    All in all, not a game of 2 halves but of 1 half and 2 quarters. All SW, even stevens, All Derby.

    Next up is Millwall on Saturday. They will do, from the off, exactly what Wendy did. Press, harry, clog and not give us any time to play any pretty stuff. We should play the XI and the tactics of the closing 25 minutes against SW and meet fire with fire.

    I often close my little tomes with my views on the ref. Today is no different. WTF!!! He seemed not to notice, or chose to ignore, SW's blatant gamesmanship from the off. Especially after their 23rd minute goal. Their keeper started time wasting from that moment on and it was only around 80 minutes that he had a word with him about it. Once Derby started to get the intiative, SW players suffered a rash of "injuries", designed to do no more than take the momentum out of our game. He fell for it hook, line and sinker. Right throughout the game they were taking free kicks 5 to 10 yards further forward than where the offence occurred. Early 2nd half we took a quick on about 2 yards forward of where the offence took place...... we had to go back and take it again. Late 2nd half we took a quick throw in, he blew to allow SW to make a substitution. No signal from an assistant that a sub was ready. The 4th official didn't even have the board ready........ SW got 5 yellows, 2 of them going to Odubajo which saw him walk on 90. He was 3 yards from the East Stand touchline. That is where he should have left the pitch. He did, in fact, do so but then decided to re-enter the field of play and exit vis the West Stand touchline. A long slow journey taking over a 30 seconds. Again trying to run the clock down, allowing his teammates time to reorganise and take the momentum out of Derby's play. IMO they ought to have had more yellows than they got. At first sight, I thought Knight was unlucky to get a yellow. No argument on Evans' and then Lawrence....... yet another unnecessary card. I think that's 8 for the season, just 2 shy of a 2 match ban. Almost all of them avoidable as well. Received for petulance towards the ref or an assistant, bad tackles caused by petulance or fouls conceded because he simply doesn't know HOW to tackle........ back to the ref...... he was pretty damned awful IMO.

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    Spot on about the referee MA and about the time wasting which was all orchestrated by Monk who spent most of the last fif**** minutes pointing at his watch and telling his players to waste time.
    Knight shouldn’t have been booked imo...and he took a lot of stick from Hutchinson...think Lawrence might be aiming for a football free Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Lawrence might be aiming for a football free Christmas.
    Why not? Apart from 1 game he's had a football free October and November...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Spot on about the referee MA and about the time wasting which was all orchestrated by Monk who spent most of the last fif**** minutes pointing at his watch and telling his players to waste time.
    Knight shouldn’t have been booked imo...and he took a lot of stick from Hutchinson...think Lawrence might be aiming for a football free Christmas.
    More time for drinking that way.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    He will,
    Mista, he will

    Unless he decides to blame you
    He often blames me and I've had so many sleepless nights worrying about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Spot on about the referee MA and about the time wasting which was all orchestrated by Monk who spent most of the last fif**** minutes pointing at his watch and telling his players to waste time.
    Knight shouldn’t have been booked imo...and he took a lot of stick from Hutchinson...think Lawrence might be aiming for a football free Christmas.
    RA that ref was clueless the few times we had possession that would have somebody to down As MA said the keeper started i had to laugh he was making out he had something in his eye and the medic never even took his gloves off to try and get it out. Then Hutchinson went down three times clutching his knee ,but still managed 90mins But whatever we say that was a pathetic showing ,not really the effort just poor players I don't think any other manager could do much with this lot Hopefully Lawrence will be suspended for Xmas and gone in Jan but because of his value in FFP terms don't think it will happen . As for Sat can't see getting much of Millwall watched them in Sky against Forest last week They are good work their socks off don't give you a minute In Wallace they have the best Championship player I've seen this season he's a great player Yes hard match theve already beaten Leeds this season beat a very good Bristol Cty this week But it's Derby you never know what's going to happen need to start Marriott get some pace against Pearce

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    Cocu needs to bin Mel Morris. He was partly to blame for last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    RA that ref was clueless the few times we had possession that would have somebody to down As MA said the keeper started i had to laugh he was making out he had something in his eye and the medic never even took his gloves off to try and get it out. Then Hutchinson went down three times clutching his knee ,but still managed 90mins But whatever we say that was a pathetic showing ,not really the effort just poor players I don't think any other manager could do much with this lot Hopefully Lawrence will be suspended for Xmas and gone in Jan but because of his value in FFP terms don't think it will happen . As for Sat can't see getting much of Millwall watched them in Sky against Forest last week They are good work their socks off don't give you a minute In Wallace they have the best Championship player I've seen this season he's a great player Yes hard match theve already beaten Leeds this season beat a very good Bristol Cty this week But it's Derby you never know what's going to happen need to start Marriott get some pace against Pearce
    IMO, to have a chance of getting anything on Satdeh we have to start the game the way we finished the last 25 minutes of the Wendy game. Using pace against Pearce would be a good ploy.

    I hope someone whispers what Milwall are, and always have been, about.

    If it moves kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it just in case.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    an uncharacteristically awful pass from Fozzy
    I hear Santa will be wearing an uncharacteristically red coat this year

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