I see good old Pies4U’s back on spouting on about politics.
Another gob who would have been hiding if his side had lost on Thursday.
This is what will be annoying I can guarantee it. If we all end up worse off or there is a noticeable difference to the negative after Brexit, will those who voted Brexit admit they made a mistake? No of course they won't. I admit I am quite open to the future even under Brexit, I believe that we are innovative and hard working when we want to be and will pull through eventually. I don't believe the level we'll end up at economically will be at the same level we would have been remaining in the EU, that's the problem. I will admit that but will you find a Brexiteer admitting things might be worse off? You won't find one that doesn't add a caveat to that sentence of for a few years. Could be forever but they'll never admit.
Let's be honest though Brexit won the vote (we won't go into how again( and Tories won the election. Time to get on with it and do our best as we always do. Also time to sort out Labour so this complete farce which has been the last 3 years in British politics doesn't happen again.
This is like I replied to Sids post, anything that the right can't explain they ignore as they'll never admit liability for anything. Austerity was terrible for so many services and then to call a Brexit vote in the middle of it when people are pissed off at the government was idiotic and complacent.
Really though they're all as bad as each other, I get sick of the Tory slagging off the Labour and visa versa then Jo Swinson just came on slagging everyone off.
I'd love to see a politician say they were sick of all the squabbling, that both main parties and the lib dems have done things that in hindsight were mistakes and let's not waste time and he said she said, let's get on with the proper business of enhancing the whole country. Why does it have to be a choice between business and social care, why can't a progressive country have a strong economy and a caring attitude. I'd vote for them.
The Anticlough - So the Tories only got 29% of support of the electorate. I'm assuming you've included the "did not vote" to manipulate the figure, but without mentioning the Labour figure using the same basis.
You then revert back to just the percentage of voters basis to make your next point, and add the votes of two completely separate parties with different policies together!
If you are advocating PR, on the 2019 vote share, a Labour and LD alliance would have just won enough seats to shut out the largest party, hardly democratic.
Rather than try to perform statistical gymnastics with the results, you could just admit the public were right and they didn't want Jeremy Corbyn and his crackpot economics.
The thing is, how will we know if we are worse of better off after Brexit if we can’t agree on any of the predictive figures now? So neither side can be proved right, it will just be yet another opinion.
You cannot “prove” what something would have been like if it never happens.
Whether we remained, left or had another x number of years of pissing around trying to agree, the economy might have been worse, better or the same as predicted under any of the options.