The Dunn family - collateral damage?

[1959_60]

Special relationship with America my arse.
We are their lapdogs and we will become more subservient in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-51117457

[The Bedlington Terrier]

No winners here - only losers.

A young man lost his life in what was deemed a tragic accident.

Why do we always have to have a scapegoat?

My advice is take Trump's compensation offer, use it wisely and move on.

The unfortunate perpetrator will be devastated and frankly I see no great inclination from our Government to seek extradition for a horrific traffic misjudgement.

[sinkov]

No winners here - only losers.

A young man lost his life in what was deemed a tragic accident.

Why do we always have to have a scapegoat?

My advice is take Trump's compensation offer, use it wisely and move on.

The unfortunate perpetrator will be devastated and frankly I see no great inclination from our Government to seek extradition for a horrific traffic misjudgement.

I totally agree with the above BT, except that I believe the Home Office has put in an extradition request. There does seem to be something odd about this case though, far from trying to come to terms with their loss and moving on, as you suggest might be the wise thing to do, the family appear to be set on the opposite course. They are rarely off the TV, they've been to the USA and met Trump in the White House, they have specialist lawyers advising them, a group of over 50 people were refused admission to a Church Hall where Raab was holding a hustings, they are threatening to organise blockades of US bases, they even have a spokesman. They claim to be 'devastated' because Boris has said he doesn't expect her to be extradited. What is the problem with that, if that's the info he's getting from the USA ? Do they want him to lie to them ? The whole saga has been turned into a soap opera, it seems quite deliberately, and the family and the people advising them seem determined to ensure it's a long running soap opera. But why, who is instructing them, who is guiding them, who is financing all of this ? This is not the normal behaviour of a grieving family, there seems to be a hidden agenda driving this, but what is that agenda, and who is driving it ? I have no idea.

[alfinyalcabo]

But it wasn't an accident,it was dangerous driving from the American bitch.. Get her extradited and then on trial for murder.. Needs a jail sentence..

she won't be devastated,she will be laughing her tits off at the Brits ..Its obvious when the bitch decided to cut and run that she knew what she was doing,if she had any decency about her she would have admitted dangerous driving in the first place..

[sinkov]

But it wasn't an accident,it was dangerous driving from the American bitch.. Get her extradited and then on trial for murder.. Needs a jail sentence..

she won't be devastated,she will be laughing her tits off at the Brits ..Its obvious when the bitch decided to cut and run that she knew what she was doing,if she had any decency about her she would have admitted dangerous driving in the first place..

But she didn't cut and run Alfie, she stayed at the scene of the accident, she co-operated with the police, then it was taken out of her hands, she was instructed by the US government to get on a USAF plane and fly to the USA. It's wrong, but it's not her fault, she's just a pawn in this diplomatic game, she's simply done what she was told to do by her government.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I'm sure you've done it Alf, popped out on the wrong side of the road in the motorhome in France? I know I have.

She should have stayed to face the music, but the Yanks shoved her on a Hercules and off she went.

Is anything going to bring the poor lad back? No - so move on!

[alfinyalcabo]

Justice for the family BT..Why should she be any different to others ,just because she was in a privileged position ..

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It's not me sinkov, I can assure you of that.

[1959_60]

Well. if my Son had been killed in this way and the perpetrator had fled the country aided by her host nation I would have tried to move heaven and earth to bring her to justice. Some on here would be more sanguine about it apparently.
I don't know about the financial position of the Dunn family, do you? But I would be prepared to spend all my spare money on doing this.

If the driver had been, say, an Indian (we also have an extradition arrangement with India) and they had acted like the USA, wouldn't you expect our Government to have put pressure on them?

But no. The USA are refusing to allow her to face justice and we are simply sucking up to them.

And yes, it was an accident but it was also dangerous driving which cost a life. Are you saying that anyone who is the victim of dangerous driving should accept it without justice being served and move on?
I think you would feel very differently if the victim was one of your loved ones.

[sinkov]

Well. if my Son had been killed in this way and the perpetrator had fled the country aided by her host nation I would have tried to move heaven and earth to bring her to justice. Some on here would be more sanguine about it apparently.

"The Home Office has applied for extradition, seems like the Yanks won't play along, and no amount of shouting and screaming will make any difference, they have their reasons and they won't budge."

I don't know about the financial position of the Dunn family, do you? But I would be prepared to spend all my spare money on doing this.

"I know nothing about this family, are they wealthy, do they have jobs ? I don't know, but I assume the answer, given the time they have to appear continuously on TV, fly to and stay in the USA, and the extensive and presumably expensive legal representation they have, must be yes and no. If not, then how on earth do they manage to get so much time off work, and who is backing them financially, and even more intriguingly, why."

If the driver had been, say, an Indian (we also have an extradition arrangement with India) and they had acted like the USA, wouldn't you expect our Government to have put pressure on them?

"What on earth has India got to do with anything ? Surely you're not playing the race card yet again are you ? Behave yourself."

But no. The USA are refusing to allow her to face justice and we are simply sucking up to them.

"What do you suggest we do, recall our ambassador and sever diplomatic relations ? Declare war on them ? Leave NATO ? Refuse to open trade talks with them ? Any other even dafter ideas ?"

And yes, it was an accident but it was also dangerous driving which cost a life. Are you saying that anyone who is the victim of dangerous driving should accept it without justice being served and move on?
I think you would feel very differently if the victim was one of your loved ones.

What I think 59 is that the family's desire for justice is being manipulated for reasons which I know not. They are like puppets being played and they're being taken advantage of. Long term this burning desire for justice, revenge, vengeance, retribution, whatever you call it, will not be of any help to them. Sometimes in life there is no justice, it seems like this may be one of those times, in which case, sooner or later, you have to accept it and move on, and better sooner than later.