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Thread: OT - Excess weight, Thrombosis and Corona - hope this helps.......

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    OT - Excess weight, Thrombosis and Corona - hope this helps.......

    .... following a little investigation triggered by something a specialist said on a Dutch talk show.......

    They say that a majority of Corona patients are overweight. If any of you are, like me, not overweight but 6 inches too short, it may not be "your fault". What ICU doctors in Holland have discovered is that many of them have a surfeit of leptin.

    Leptin is also called the satiety hormone: the main function is to tell your brain that you have eaten enough. If that goes well, then the rest of your body will also receive the message that you are no longer hungry.

    Leptin is produced in the fat cells. In theory, this creates a handy balance: the more fat you have, the more leptin you produce, and the less you have to eat. This way your body can prevent you from becoming overweight. In practice, however, this balance only works to a certain point. When you gain weight, leptin becomes a problem instead of a solution!

    Due to excess Leptin your brain starts to ignore the signal and you become Lestin resistant. You keep on eating and feel peckish again shortly after eating.

    If you recognise this then you are possiblt lestin resistant.

    No need to worry though. A dietary supplement with resveratrol can be supportive and help reduce Leptin levels (a natural substance found in blue grapes and the Japanese knotweed roots). Resveratrol is a strong anti-oxidant, which also has a repellent effect against inflammation and cancer cells.

    They are currenly testing this. Resveratrol to reduce leptin resistance, which then gets the brain to once more recognise the "I'm full" signals and you eat less and lose weight and thereby appear to be better able to fight CV-19.

    Another CV-19 issue is that it seems to thicken the blood and cause clotting (thrombosis) to the point where, in NL, the levels of bloodthinners to CV-19 patients has been doubled. This has seen renal failure occur in more than 25% of CV-19 patients in the ICU. Those who already take bloodthinners for an underlying condition or take Aspirin on a regular basis are far less likely to suffer from CV-19 related thrombosis. I am on blood thinners so should be OK on that front, however, before any of you decide to start taking Aspirin on a daily basis I strongly advise you to talk to your GP about this first.

    Hopefully stuff to ponder on and investigate further. This brought to you for no other reason than that it might be useful and helpful to some of you.

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    GP (not that one) here! I also take regular aspirin, and think they are evil tablets, causing such extremes of acid indigestion that I then have to take PPI (not that one) tablets to reduce stomach acid levels, which interact badly with the stomach lining which the aspirin has ****ed up. Thus this makes me twice as vulnerable to stomach cancer.

    You just cannot win!

    Mind you you could take warfarin, which is a commonly used rat poison

    the joys of middle to old age!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    GP (not that one) here! I also take regular aspirin, and think they are evil tablets, causing such extremes of acid indigestion that I then have to take PPI (not that one) tablets to reduce stomach acid levels, which interact badly with the stomach lining which the aspirin has ****ed up. Thus this makes me twice as vulnerable to stomach cancer.

    You just cannot win!

    Mind you you could take warfarin, which is a commonly used rat poison

    the joys of middle to old age!
    Sorry to hear you have a condition requiring regular use of Aspirin GP. Even sorrier that the Aspirin gives you unwanted side effects. You're a sensible chap so I presume you have consulted the other GP on the matter. If not I'd recommend doing so. It might just help.

    With regard to your last sentence, what actually constitutes middle and old age these days? At 66 I do have the odd ailment or 4 allied to my being about 6 inches too short for my weight. I am, however, still active cycling, refereeing, the odd all nighter (pre CV-19) as well as DJing. Even 40 years ago, folk my age would have been horrified at the thought of someone my age having the affrontery to be so active..... act yer bloody age man!! I hear them saying. The point is, age is just a number or, as I look at it (feminists look away please) - a man is only as old as the woman he feels 'Er indoors is 11 years my Junior. Is it she that keeps me so active and "young"? No idea but I enjoy doing the things I do, I can still do them well and see absolutely no reason to slow down as long as I can continue to do them well without being shattered for 3 days after a ride or a game......

    It's also an attitude. I consider myself 66 years young and that is the mindset I take into daily life. If you start to consider yourself old, you will very soon become old and no longer capable of doing the things you love doing. I occasionally get asked "how I do it" when out at a nighter. My answer is always "you don't stop dancing because you get old, you get old because you stop dancing"...... you can. of course substitute cycling or running or swimming etc for dancing in that motto but the result is the same. Just as with your brain, you use it or you lose it. Do the things you do for as long as you can and, when it starts getting too difficult, don't stop, just do less of it. Less often and/or for a shorter period.

    Just do it.

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    Im only taking the aspirin because said doctor to;d me that I should! The rest followed naturally

    Im amazed that you keep a younger woman happy when your are 6 inches too short! That would make you only 4 inches long by my book

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    The ‘excess weight’ issue would go some way to explaining the impact in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Im only taking the aspirin because said doctor to;d me that I should!
    Interestingly...my doctor told me - eigh**** months ago - that that was the old ‘school of thought’ and no longer had overwhelming approval.

    Just saying...not disagreeing or arguing.

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    For diabetes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    For diabetes?
    No, apologies...as a preventative measure in view of a combination of age and family history of circulatory problems. I heard it recommended, spoke to the Doc...he said ‘No!’

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    My better half is 14 years younger than me hence I'm always knackered!!! (mind you the cancer treatment doesn't help)

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    Quote Originally Posted by macstheman View Post
    My better half is 14 years younger than me hence I'm always knackered!!! (mind you the cancer treatment doesn't help)
    I'm glad you didn't miss any words out there Mac. The police could have been banging your door down.

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