So what is it then

[AP69]

When he sold out.

Not exactly collapsed though and Freddy wanted to keep it

[TheOtherTerryMac]

When he sold out.

Nice to admit that the Club collapsed WHEN Sir John Hall sold out and I 100% agree with you. We have been on a downward spiral ever since.

[Milburn9]

When he sold out.

Do you have proof of this??

[Geordie1974]

It's true man. The mackem tramps say so.

[Milburn9]

It's true man. The mackem tramps say so.

But but but.... isn't it if you make a statement like that you need to provide proof???

[Geordie1974]

That is just the rest of the board.Not superfan and Wilf.

[liikape]

"If he defends the players, he's damned.
If he defends due to Rafa's original set up, he's damned.
If he attacks and gets hammered, he's damned."

I agree with this bit. Bruce never stood a chance here, and should have known not to take the job.

But his football isn't a lot worse than what we were seeing under Rafa, although it seems to me more random and based on luck.

It's more that he's the symbol of an Ashley-era Yes Man whereas Rafa wasn't. That is the key difference between the two, and that's what bothers me the most about him. Not the 90 mins of shyte.

I agree with this post completely.