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Thread: Law 12 and Wiz's "goal"

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    Law 12 and Wiz's "goal"

    Wiz's 1st DCFC goal shouldn't have stood. If we'd had VAR it wouldn't have stood.

    The ball comes in, gets diverted skywards, comes back down, bounces, hits Curtis's arm, falls to the Wiz who prods it home.

    The weird thing about the handball Law as it stands is that, in our box, it wouldn't have been handball. At the time the ball hit Curt's hand in their box, it wasn't handball either. Only once Wiz prodded it in, did it become handball. The officials missed it so the goal was given. The Northampton players missed it as they didn't appeal. VAR wouldn't have IMO and the goal would have been chalked off.

    This is the problem, an incident isn't a free kick, anywhere on the pitch, unless it leads to a goal. This is so alien to me. It's either right or it's wrong. None of this unless......... garbage. Either Curt handled it or he didn't. It's perfectly obvious that, according to the test for handball it wasn't handball. However, as it led to a goal, it suddenly becomes one........ that can't be right.............. but it is and is exactly why the handball Law needs improving.

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    Good grief, do you realise what you are saying here. Under today's rules, Maradonna's goal in the 1986 world cup against England would not have counted? Clearly the ball merely hit his hand and so no foul occurred, but nowadays the fact that it resulted in a goal would have meant the goal was disallowable.

    The whole future of football could have been changed if this new rule had been in play, and you want to change it!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Good grief, do you realise what you are saying here. Under today's rules, Maradonna's goal in the 1986 world cup against England would not have counted? Clearly the ball merely hit his hand and so no foul occurred, but nowadays the fact that it resulted in a goal would have meant the goal was disallowable.

    The whole future of football could have been changed if this new rule had been in play, and you want to change it!?!?
    GP, Maradonna's was deliberate handball. It woud be disallowed today. It should have been disallowed back then.

    I am not sure what point you are trying to make here or if you are even trying to make a point.

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    I think I shall cease attempting to submit attempted ironic humour on cloggie posts from now onwards. Some fall on stony ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Wiz's 1st DCFC goal shouldn't have stood. If we'd had VAR it wouldn't have stood.

    The ball comes in, gets diverted skywards, comes back down, bounces, hits Curtis's arm, falls to the Wiz who prods it home.

    The weird thing about the handball Law as it stands is that, in our box, it wouldn't have been handball. At the time the ball hit Curt's hand in their box, it wasn't handball either. Only once Wiz prodded it in, did it become handball. The officials missed it so the goal was given. The Northampton players missed it as they didn't appeal. VAR wouldn't have IMO and the goal would have been chalked off.

    This is the problem, an incident isn't a free kick, anywhere on the pitch, unless it leads to a goal. This is so alien to me. It's either right or it's wrong. None of this unless......... garbage. Either Curt handled it or he didn't. It's perfectly obvious that, according to the test for handball it wasn't handball. However, as it led to a goal, it suddenly becomes one........ that can't be right.............. but it is and is exactly why the handball Law needs improving.
    I think most in the football world are agreed that this is a complete bollox of a rule, apart from those who implemented it obviously. Seems a case where instead of just implementing VAR to cover existing rules some clever **** decided that VAR could cover rules which in 99% of the time a ref would never spot!

    But thats in keeping with the British mania for rule making and enforcement, and the irony that the Uk was the origin of many regulations and directives which were implemented by the EU, which Brexit is supposed to allow the Uk to become free of!

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