Reply With QuoteProbably not until the Nightingale hospital at Excel is full to capacity?Originally Posted by upthemaggies
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Nottingham doesn't look too bad compared to many other cities and towns (we're about half-way) but will people be moved to the QMC from other parts of the country (say London) if we've got spare beds or ICU's?
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Probably not until the Nightingale hospital at Excel is full to capacity?
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I know mate, don't worry, I need the destraction for a couple of hours a day!
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Apologies if this has been posted already but this was updated on the BBC website 5 hours ago, some interesting info and data … https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105
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I know its relatively early days but there are some big differences in death rates:
Country Cases Deaths Ratio USA 216323 5122 2.37% Italy 110574 13155 11.90% Spain 110238 10003 9.07% China 82431 3322 4.03% Germany 78115 944 1.21% France 56989 4032 7.08% Iran 50468 3160 6.26% UK 33718 2921 8.66% Switzerland 18117 505 2.79% Turkey 15679 277 1.77% Belgium 15348 1011 6.59% Netherlands 13614 1173 8.62% Austria 10892 158 1.45% South Korea 9976 169 1.69% Canada 9731 112 1.15% Portugal 8251 187 2.27% Brazil 6931 244 3.52% Israel 6211 33 0.53% Australia 5108 24 0.47% Norway 5083 47 0.92% Sweden 4947 239 4.83% Czech Republic 3604 40 1.11% Russia 3548 30 0.85% Ireland 3447 85 2.47% Chile 3404 18 0.53%
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Thats what we really need to try and understand why. Is it the reporting of the deaths or the way each country has reacted to the virus etc?I know its relatively early days but there are some big differences in death rates:
Country Cases   eaths
Ratio USA 216323 5122 2.37% Italy 110574 13155 11.90% Spain 110238 10003 9.07% China 82431 3322 4.03% Germany 78115 944 1.21% France 56989 4032 7.08% Iran 50468 3160 6.26% UK 33718 2921 8.66% Switzerland 18117 505 2.79% Turkey 15679 277 1.77% Belgium 15348 1011 6.59% Netherlands 13614 1173 8.62% Austria 10892 158 1.45% South Korea 9976 169 1.69% Canada 9731 112 1.15% Portugal 8251 187 2.27% Brazil 6931 244 3.52% Israel 6211 33 0.53% Australia 5108 24 0.47% Norway 5083 47 0.92% Sweden 4947 239 4.83% Czech Republic 3604 40 1.11% Russia 3548 30 0.85% Ireland 3447 85 2.47% Chile 3404 18 0.53%
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Some excellent charts and visualisations on the FT site here...
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest
Last edited by SwalePie; 02-04-2020 at 07:43 PM.
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I think it will be a combination of both and also we have to consider who in the population is being tested for the disease as well across each country.
For example in Country A you could have people that are being tested across a wide range of ages with suspected illness who may only have mild symptoms. Or this testing may include say routine testing of health and key workers. In this example the deaths to cases ratio could be low in comparison to other countries.
Country B for example may only be able to test people who are suspected of having the disease and may have ended up in hospital as a result or may already be in hospital for other underlying conditions. By nature of the illness being severe enough in some people to warrant hospitalisation then sadly some of those people would probably go on to succumb to the disease and die. In this example you could end up with a higher ratio of death to cases.
I think at the moment many countries probably will be somewhere between the two examples. In time as more testing is carried out to find out who has or who has not had the disease then maybe there would be a more levelling up of ratios around the world maybe?
Ultimately in time if there is mass testing in countries then when a vaccine does become available those that haven’t had the disease and don’t have the antibodies could be more easily identified and vaccinated accordingly. The big question is how long all this will take. That nobody really knows.
Last edited by MAD_MAGPIE; 02-04-2020 at 09:46 PM.
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The lowest % death rate in the world is here in Australia which also has the highest test rate. As a result community transmission is caught early and those most likley to be affected can be isolated and where necessary treated as best as possible. We are already flattening the curve with reported new cases already in single digits on a % basis compared to 30-40% a couple of weeks ago per day. Early days but certainly encouraging. There have been plenty of mistakes made here such as the dick head who let 2500 off a cruise ship in Sydney a few weeks ago resulting in 400 cases going into the community ( they have been sent on a prison ship back to the UK) but overall you would take it before you started if you get my drift. They are still talking 6 months though.
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I've been banging on about this, with Driller, since day1........there is no way that this disease it is 10 times, or 20 times or even a 100 times more potent in Italy than in nearby Germany, or Finland or Greece.
Greece and Italy are next door to each other with roughly the same weather and temps......Greece has a death rate of 5 per million and Italy is claiming 230 per million!!!.....something isn't right, every other country is staring at this death rate and saying wtf?.......now I notice that the Italian government is begging (again) for more funds from the EU in the form of CoronaVirus Bonds, not only to see themselves through this crisis, but to help rebuild in the future.
Greece had 2 deaths today, Italy are claiming 760?......no way, categorically no way.
My girlfriend is a senior administrator in a country way bigger than Italy, and they had 8 deaths today, 8!!, with a 1,954 mile OPEN border to the USA....her immediate reaction to the Italian and Spanish deaths was, IMPOSSIBLE, unless they are marking every single death down to Covid (to claim extra government funds).
Eddie Large was 78 years old with a serious heart disease.....he didn't die of Covid, he had caught Covid while he was already extremely ill.
I leave you guys to join the dots!
Edit....If I owned a trucking business that was struggling, but someone told me that I could claim 100% government support for faulty tyres....I'm out tonight slashing every tyre on every vehicle, then sitting under a palm tree drinking champagne and watching tax payers money roll in.
Last edited by tarquinbeech; 03-04-2020 at 12:58 AM.
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