O/T:- Impressed with the leadership

[upthemaggies]

Who was the first Notts player to make his debut after a Labour leader - other than Tony Blair - last won a general election?

Answer..... An 18 year old by the name of Pedro Richards.

[seriouspie]

Very poor reply son but there we are. You seem to have a fetish about certain people who speak - in your words .... 'posh'. If you ever had a bit of brass you wouldn't send your kids to a decent school would you? Of course you would.

So carry on my friend calling Boz a buffoon, carry on with your protests because that's all the Labour party are now, a gang of left wing protesters who have destroyed a once formidable political force and very unlikely to ever be in power again. By the way, I'm waiving all bets so nothing to pay out. I only made the bets to make you and Elite bite on what at the time, you thought was a winner. I'm only interested in winning, the money means nothing especially when it's like taking candy from kids.

OOOps entered twice!!!!

[Borg elite]

You were quick to edit the small time lose as well serious, best not take the pee out of mapperley and then drop a succession of clangers 😁

[Elite_Pie]

Utter bollux....... small time loser.

Could you explain that? Specifically, please could you explain why having a proven liar and cheat leading the country is a good thing?

ps Saying that Starmer would have been worse isn't an acceptable answer.

[Mapperleypie]

Could you explain that? Specifically, please could you explain why having a proven liar and cheat leading the country is a good thing?

ps Saying that Starmer would have been worse isn't an acceptable answer.

That is all there is.

There seems to be a philosophy amongst people still supporting the Tories whereby they fabricate a much worse alternate reality in their heads as a means to justify still planning to vote for this absolute clown-cart of liars, incompetents & sycophants.

[seriouspie]

Could you explain that? Specifically, please could you explain why having a proven liar and cheat leading the country is a good thing?

ps Saying that Starmer would have been worse isn't an acceptable answer.

1. Simple ......... democratically elected and given a vast majority in parliament - that's why.

2. I couldn't give a flying one whether it's acceptable to you or not but I think an acceptable answer may be the result of the forthcoming by election eh?

[seriouspie]

That is all there is.

There seems to be a philosophy amongst people still supporting the Tories whereby they fabricate a much worse alternate reality in their heads as a means to justify still planning to vote for this absolute clown-cart of liars, incompetents & sycophants.

Still supporting the Tories???

Tens of thousands of Labourites deserting their ship more and more. As said to the Broxtowe socialist, if the Tories win the upcoming by election your mob of left wing intellectuals along with the protest freaks etc will be crushed once and for all.

[upthemaggies]

It's a bit like the Notts and Fword situation in many ways. Fword have never been such a shambles as they have over the past 20 years, yet somehow Notts have managed to become an even bigger shambles to the point that the gap between the numbers supporting the two clubs has widened.

When I was growing up, Michael Foot was always a bit of a joke figure as he was very old by then and past it, but I watched some of his speeches recently from when he was much younger and by god, the likes of Starmer, Milliband and Blair are like little kids pretending to play daddy in nursery settings by comparison. On the other hand, watching lectures by the right wing philosopher Roger Scruton brings home just how dethatched current Tory MP's have become from true conservatism. It's a desperately sad state of affairs all round. God help us all.

[BigFatPie]

Very poor reply son but there we are. You seem to have a fetish about certain people who speak - in your words .... 'posh'. If you ever had a bit of brass you wouldn't send your kids to a decent school would you? Of course you would.
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I dunno serious old son, but if you don’t give us good reasons as to why you support the Tories than we’ll make up our own, no matter how ridiculous they seem to be. If you don’t engage with the criticisms that we make about this moronic government, then we’ll think you don’t really have any answers to them. Some bullish!t about Starmer doesn’t really cut the mustard.

I’m really sorry you entered into that bet in bad faith, I hope it doesn’t suggest what sort of person you really are, but I reckon it probably does. Never mind, I’ll find a good LGBT+ charity to give the money to, I know how much fan you are of equal rights.

[seriouspie]

I dunno serious old son, but if you don’t give us good reasons as to why you support the Tories than we’ll make up our own, no matter how ridiculous they seem to be. If you don’t engage with the criticisms that we make about this moronic government, then we’ll think you don’t really have any answers to them. Some bullish!t about Starmer doesn’t really cut the mustard.

I’m really sorry you entered into that bet in bad faith, I hope it doesn’t suggest what sort of person you really are, but I reckon it probably does. Never mind, I’ll find a good LGBT+ charity to give the money to, I know how much fan you are of equal rights.

You've no idea what sort of person I am, actually you may be surprised if you knew. Regarding the bet, no bad faith intended one iota, if I had lost, then the bet would have been immediately paid but in this instance with the very generous 'odds' in which I offered the bet and also agreeing at your suggestion You gov would be the poll we use for the result, you and Elite couldn't wait to jump in as I knew you would.