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Thread: O/T Anyone still looking forward to taking holidays abroad?

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    The other term I can see is 'dont refund Eric'. But thats in the small print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Tui got £1.7bn off the German Gov last week. Not sure what conditions came with the bailout.
    If a proportion of that is being filtered to their hotels and their staff, that’s playing fair.

    I’ll make a point of being generous with tips to the local staff if we get away anytime this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
    If a proportion of that is being filtered to their hotels and their staff, that’s playing fair.

    I’ll make a point of being generous with tips to the local staff if we get away anytime this year.
    Good on you Howdy.

    And yes agree totally regarding playing fair. Im bang up to date with all my suppliers as are you Im sure - thats playing fair.

    But, many these hotels are international branded resort hotel where little ends up with the locals. All inclusive means even less ends up with local business. And workers are on minimum wage.

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    We as a party of 6 have deferred our holiday over to next year at the same price. In all honesty we had a conversation between ourselves and in reality none of us want to fly again this year.

    The general consensus was realising that the majority of hotel/resort staff are on zero hour contracts, so some may be looking to risk anything to return to work, just to get a wage in their pocket to survive. They may or even may not know they may be carrying the covid bug and that is a risk we are not willing to take at this time.

    The email we received from Virgin went as follows:

    ''We hope you’re keeping safe and well at home. We’re contacting all our customers to let them know the current status of their booking, their choices at this time and the best ways to contact us.
    We’re reaching out right now because, although your holiday has not been cancelled, our flexible policy does mean you are able to rebook your holiday for a later time with no change fee. If you’d like to take up this option, you can let us know by filling in this form, and we’ll call you back to get this changed for you.
    It’s worth noting that if the situation changes and your existing holiday can no longer go ahead under our policy, you would then be eligible for a full refund and we will contact you again via email if this is the case.
    Right now, our contact centre is only open to inbound calls from people who are due to travel in the next 72 hours, so we’re unable to help you right away. Rest assured, we will be in touch with you via email if there’s any information about your trip you need to know. Please be aware we’re working through an unprecedented number of rebooking requests. But we will get to you, we promise.
    Many thanks for all your understanding and patience''

    Although it clearly shows we are eligible for a refund if our holiday doesn't go ahead on the 18th June, we didn't want to risk it actually going ahead, thus making us take the holiday or losing all our money paid, hence the referred new booking. There have been posts saying Virgin Atlantic won't do refunds, well here's the proof they are willing to do so.

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    tui told the hotels abroad they were not going to get paid, so no money feeding down the chain.
    But tui still asking people for their balance on their holiday booking, & taking new holiday bookings, Simon Calder travel expert said last week, that holiday companies using new booking money, for people that go in 6 to 12 months time, to pay for hotels etc for the people that are due to go shortly.
    Where has travel companies don't pay for your hotel until after your holiday, this happened with Thomas Cook, look what happened, tourists abroad had to pay their hotel bills while there, because company not paid the bills.
    If you want fairness, why don't travel companies say right if you let us keep your deposit, then you pay the balance before you travel but no they want the rest of your balance.
    Last edited by Ericsladkilnhurst; 23-04-2020 at 12:14 PM.

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    Branson has put Virgin Atlantic up for sale as hes struggling to secure the £500m government bailout to save the company.

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    BA making 12,000 redundant.

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    This thing about Branson. He doesn't have the majority shares anymore and is now asking on behalf of Virgin Atlantic (VA), for a £500 Million pound bail out by the Government. I have also read today he's worth £3.4 Billion pounds.

    If the issue is that he's no longer the major share holder, then maybe he needs to get around the table with those who also own the shares in VA and sort something out between themselves. I'm sure the rest are of Billionaire status.

    Failing that, IF the Government can assist then make it a loan to be paid back with interest and not just a handout. £500 Million is well hell of an amount of money to want to borrow though.
    Last edited by Brin; 28-04-2020 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    This thing about Branson. He doesn't have the majority shares anymore and is now asking on behalf of Virgin Atlantic (VA), for a £500 Million pound bail out by the Government. I have also read today he's worth £3.4 Billion pounds.

    If the issue is that he's no longer the major share holder, then maybe he needs to get around the table with those who also own the shares in VA and sort something out between themselves. I'm sure the rest are of Billionaire status.

    Failing that, IF the Government can assist then make it a loan to be paid back with interest and not just a handout. £500 Million is well hell of an amount of money to want to borrow though.
    Branson does still own the majority shareholding.

    Quote "Virgin airline along with Virgin Holidays is controlled by a holding company, Virgin Atlantic Limited, which is 51% owned by the Virgin Group and 49% by Delta Air Lines."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Branson does still own the majority shareholding.

    Quote "Virgin airline along with Virgin Holidays is controlled by a holding company, Virgin Atlantic Limited, which is 51% owned by the Virgin Group and 49% by Delta Air Lines."
    WanChai, you're incorrect.

    Virgin Atlantic is currently 49% owned by Delta Airlines, with an additional stake of 31% recently acquired by Ai France-KLM. Branson calls Delta “a great partner” in many areas. 5 Jul 2019 Branson sold his part share to fund 'other' areas of his buisness.

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