Some clubs can't handle the truth

[jjaflup22]

To be honest I’m getting fed up of the ‘establishment clubs’ nonsense being used on here (or implied at least!) . Grouping Hearts, Dundee and Sevco together in some ways is bigoted and almost says we’re ok with Hibs and Celtic!

Ram that.....Hibs are as scummy as Hearts and Celtic definitely as scummy as Sevco!

Exactly, to class them as 'establishment clubs' is almost giving them a kind of legitimacy. Celtic and Sevco, equal level of scuminess.

[GUNBOAT]

To be honest I’m getting fed up of the ‘establishment clubs’ nonsense being used on here (or implied at least!) . Grouping Hearts, Dundee and Sevco together in some ways is bigoted and almost says we’re ok with Hibs and Celtic!

Ram that.....Hibs are as scummy as Hearts and Celtic definitely as scummy as Sevco!

We have always been the people's club throughout our history and always will be.Dundee FC used to sell The Rangers pools to their support,they did this because they are from the same ilk ie an establishment club.

[petermackie]

We have always been the people's club throughout our history and always will be.Dundee FC used to sell The Rangers pools to their support,they did this because they are from the same ilk ie an establishment club.

What people 🚜🚜🚜??

[GUNBOAT]

What people ������??

Do you remember of The Rangers pools signs up in Dens Peter?.tut tut tut.

[shed-buoy]

What people ������??

When your club goes bust, can we keep you Peter?

[JamesMcClean]

Do you remember of The Rangers pools signs up in Dens Peter?.tut tut tut.

Or the singing of ‘I Was Born Under A Union Jack’ in the Derry? Which happened - FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

Or the singing of ‘I Was Born Under A Union Jack’ in the Derry? Which happened - FACT.

Younger United supporters or posters can educate me and i have no problem with that whatsoever.One thing they cannot change though is history.

There were older brothers of my father who did support the Dees(most people in the 50's did,FACT.My father rebelled and followed DUFC in the 2nd division and all his younger siblings followed suit.

My father detested the union flag,the masons and establishment club's of Scotland with a passion.If he never chose to follow the people's club i would be best mates with Cobra and posting on the DBF tonight.

You need to know your history before passing judgement,my father chose United when they were nothing and had never won anything.Everybody who was anybody in Dundee in the 50's or early 60's put their money into the establishment club which was DFC.

WASC with a FACT.

[A. J]

History is all that Dundee and Rangers have,

[GUNBOAT]

History is all that Dundee and THE Rangers have,

Fixed that for you A J,FACT.

[Chick A Saw]

GB,
What is forgotten with this modern rivalry is, supporters of football in Dundee visited both clubs in search of their football entertainment. Throughout our travels in the Championship, my father would regularly tell of how him and his uncle would alternate between Tannadice and Dens, and if there was no home game that weekend, off they went to watch Raith if at home.

Since returning to Dundee at the start of the 80s, there has only been one club for my father and i, and i have never looked across the road again!

There are still supporters who alternate between the 2 clubs, but they are of an older generation that may well die out over the next few years.