Burnley and ball possession

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There's a simple solution to the problem of players who are rarely fit to play BT. It's called a P45.

I'm a patient man sinkov and I have a feeling you are not, but my patience ran out with these two eigh**** months ago. Not exactly "foot soldiers" are they? Get shut.

[army88]

J Rod and Vydra up.front after first lockdown was a much better balanced side and could actually worry defences why we've gone back to hold ball is beyond me.

The hoof ball isn't working anyway because neither Wood or Barnes can win it and keep it long enough to do any damage or wait for support to reach them , in those twos defence there is zero service from wide to them so scoring goals will be an issue.

Jbg isn't good enough at this level and I've posted many times 're his involvement in truth if he played 90 mins which wouldn't be often of late , his actual contribution would be 15 mins at most ( doing what he should be doing that is ).

We are very very slow and laboured in our play , teams don't feel threatened because Barnes or wood aren't going to win a foot race if we pinch the ball back in our own half.

We desperately desperately need fresh players who are quick , every team we play against has pace

Imagine playing in our defence constantly under pressure as the ball just comes back all the time.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

J Rod and Vydra up.front after first lockdown was a much better balanced side and could actually worry defences why we've gone back to hold ball is beyond me.

The hoof ball isn't working anyway because neither Wood or Barnes can win it and keep it long enough to do any damage or wait for support to reach them , in those twos defence there is zero service from wide to them so scoring goals will be an issue.

Jbg isn't good enough at this level and I've posted many times 're his involvement in truth if he played 90 mins which wouldn't be often of late , his actual contribution would be 15 mins at most ( doing what he should be doing that is ).

We are very very slow and laboured in our play , teams don't feel threatened because Barnes or wood aren't going to win a foot race if we pinch the ball back in our own half.

We desperately desperately need fresh players who are quick , every team we play against has pace

Imagine playing in our defence constantly under pressure as the ball just comes back all the time.

They get a lot of practice though army88.

[Deadlydave]

Definition of madness is to do the same thing and expect a different outcome. So if this carries on we will sink like the titanic. So, we have surely got to at least consider doing something different as we are too predictable and easy to play against. Yes we should have got some new players with pace in during the summer but we cant change that now so lets see something different to catch the opposition out for once in a while eh. PLEASE.........

[sinkov]

Jbg isn't good enough at this level and I've posted many times 're his involvement in truth if he played 90 mins which wouldn't be often of late , his actual contribution would be 15 mins at most ( doing what he should be doing that is ).

Wouldn't argue with most of that army, but I think JBG is good enough for this level when he's 100% match fit. The problem is he seems to need 5/6 games to get himself up to speed, and he can never stay fit enough to play 5/6 consecutive games to get up to speed, so all we get are a couple of games where he's way off the pace, then he's injured again and we're back to square one. I'm in agreement with BT, we should cut our losses and get rid.

[Supersub6]

Five teams this weekend had an average possession figure of 58.4% and they had 55 shots of which 11 were on target and they scored 3 goals and gained 2 points between them.
Their opponents had 52 shots of which 21 were on target and they scored 11 goals and won 11 points between them.

It is what you do with the possession that matters and you can't do better than score goals and that is what we have to put right.
Arsenal had loads of possession tonight but only had 2 shots on target compared with Villa who had 6 on target.

[sinkov]

Five teams this weekend had an average possession figure of 58.4% and they had 55 shots of which 11 were on target and they scored 3 goals and gained 2 points between them.
Their opponents had 52 shots of which 21 were on target and they scored 11 goals and won 11 points between them.

It is what you do with the possession that matters and you can't do better than score goals and that is what we have to put right.
Arsenal had loads of possession tonight but only had 2 shots on target compared with Villa who had 6 on target.

I can't get too concerned about our possession stats. In the overwhelming majority of games since we got back into the PL we have had less possession than our opponents, usually a lot less, but in that time we've finished 7th and 10th in the league. It's not pretty to watch, it shouldn't work, but for us it does. Whatever the reason we're bottom now it's not the lack of possession, we never have much possession, and it's not held us back before.

[Vintage Claret]

I can't get too concerned about our possession stats. In the overwhelming majority of games since we got back into the PL we have had less possession than our opponents, usually a lot less, but in that time we've finished 7th and 10th in the league. It's not pretty to watch, it shouldn't work, but for us it does. Whatever the reason we're bottom now it's not the lack of possession, we never have much possession, and it's not held us back before.

Sinkov, yes it has worked in the past, but this season it just is not working, yet Dyche is persisting with it. Wood and Barnes are not getting goals so he should be trying to correct that, if he considers making changes within the last 10 minutes is trying to change things, I can’t understand that thinking. We should be making the change far earlier.

[blueheeler1]

Five teams this weekend had an average possession figure of 58.4% and they had 55 shots of which 11 were on target and they scored 3 goals and gained 2 points between them.
Their opponents had 52 shots of which 21 were on target and they scored 11 goals and won 11 points between them.

It is what you do with the possession that matters and you can't do better than score goals and that is what we have to put right.
Arsenal had loads of possession tonight but only had 2 shots on target compared with Villa who had 6 on target.

Totally correct Supersub.

But if you only have 25% or less possession you are unlikely to muster many shots at all, let alone on target.

Several reasons:

1. For 75% of the game you are chasing the ball. Very tiring for old legs.
2. You so rarely get a chance in the opponents box with just 25% possession that every miss is a disaster.
3. Just relying on rare dead ball chances (rare free kicks 20 yds out and even rarer corners) is unsatisfactory. No Burnley player seems able to deliver crosses into the box that really cause problems to the defence.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Totally correct Supersub.

But if you only have 25% or less possession you are unlikely to muster many shots at all, let alone on target.

Several reasons:

1. For 75% of the game you are chasing the ball. Very tiring for old legs.
2. You so rarely get a chance in the opponents box with just 25% possession that every miss is a disaster.
3. Just relying on rare dead ball chances (rare free kicks 20 yds out and even rarer corners) is unsatisfactory. No Burnley player seems able to deliver crosses into the box that really cause problems to the defence.

You have obviously never watched Westwood then blueheeler1?