Deaths with covid

[Returnofrros]

Interesting that countries who went for a hard lockdown and closed borders have done better than Scotland with no control of borders and unable to lockdown until phuckwit Johnson was forced to as deaths rose last March.

Congo closed it's borders😂

[Taintedice]

This is from the WHO:

"A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. hit by the 1B )."

So all countries should be using much the same methodology, although suggestions the likes of China and Russia are hiding the true numbers.

[Taintedice]

Interesting figures. Do you know the deaths per annum for any of these countries. I am beginning to think that our statistics have a measure of political influence.

Well, rros has managed to increase official covid deaths from 6181 to 8347 so definitely some politiking going on there. Not doing himself any favours with deeranged by doing that.

[Returnofrros]

This is from the WHO:

"A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. hit by the 1B )."

So all countries should be using much the same methodology, although suggestions the likes of China and Russia are hiding the true numbers.

Who....the same who who recommend not locking down.

Who wuda thought.

[Taintedice]

Finland didn't have full lockdown either but you will know that.

How does that help your claims about Sweden? Finland closed internal borders, shut pubs, cafes etc, quarantined international arrivals, all the most obvious measures were taken. They re-opened after 2 months of lockdown.

[Taintedice]

Who....the same who who recommend not locking down.

Who wuda thought.

Why do you keep spinning ****e which is easily disproved?

[Returnofrros]

Why do you keep spinning ****e which is easily disproved?

I prefer Tuesdays and Fridays when you have me on ignore

[Returnofrros]

"We in the world health organisation do not advocate lockdowns as a primary measure for control 🙄 of the virus.

Lockdown also have a disproportionate impact on the most disadvantaged."

But it does seem to be the go to magic bullet for govts.

Like shooting a gold bullet at a werewolf.

[BCram]

How does that help your claims about Sweden? Finland closed internal borders, shut pubs, cafes etc, quarantined international arrivals, all the most obvious measures were taken. They re-opened after 2 months of lockdown.

This bit, they reopened after 2 months of lockdown is very interesting. When our holidays were cancelled last year we didn't take the money back option and rebooted for 2021. It just does not seem likely that the foreign holiday industry is going to be reopened even in late July. Even if we were prepared to pay for an additional 10 days isolation when we return, we are concerned that there will be no bookings made during the normal booking period and our holiday will be cancelled again. My question is how can Finland be back to normal at the moment?

[Taintedice]

This bit, they reopened after 2 months of lockdown is very interesting. When our holidays were cancelled last year we didn't take the money back option and rebooted for 2021. It just does not seem likely that the foreign holiday industry is going to be reopened even in late July. Even if we were prepared to pay for an additional 10 days isolation when we return, we are concerned that there will be no bookings made during the normal booking period and our holiday will be cancelled again. My question is how can Finland be back to normal at the moment?

Finland never relaxed measures they had in place post-lockdown, there is still a ban on non-Finnish people entering the country without good reason, Finns have to quarantine on arrival for 2 weeks, there are some restrictions but none that anyone would really care about. Not sure about sports but life seems good for the Finns. And being stuck in a hotel room for 10 days, at a cost of £1500, being fed crappy food, is a holiday worth that?