EFL Appeal Derby County Independent Panel Decision

[howdydoo]

‘Let’s call the whole thing off’

George Gershwin

*yawns*

[howdydoo]

But the EFL suggested/requested for an independent panel to deal with it, so in essence they still sent it for just punishment. Purely just an arse covering exercise for the EFL so, they couldn't be accused of personally handing down whatever judgement was handed out, bunch of cowards the lot of em. As it turned out it was a fix as 6 points were later removed, which again wasn't just.

You're either fully guilty or not. All evidence in mitigation should have been heard at the time of the hearing but somehow, Weds managed to find new mitigating circumstances after the charge of -12 points was handed down.. As it was, they removed the 6 points when they should have removed them all. I have never heard of a 50/50 sentence in football.

Take a court sentence. A person is found guilty of said charge and sent down. Appeal is heard and after deliberation the defendant is found NOT guilty therefore all criminal charges are removed and expunged, as the incident never happened. Not in football though.

..and do you think their crackpot owner will take it lying down if they are relegated by less than 6 points?

We need 4 teams below us just to be safe.

[Brin]

..and do you think their crackpot owner will take it lying down if they are relegated by less than 6 points?

We need 4 teams below us just to be safe.

Howdydoo, In all honesty had they got the -12 then he couldn't have complained as they will have been almost down by now. Thing is 'things' happen and you don't see the full punishment happening.

[flourbasher]

When SWFC,s points deduction was halved it wasn't because they were found not guilty on appeal.
The independent panel upheld that they were guilty and the reason why there points deduction was reduced because the panel thought that the 12 points was excessively severe.
How they came to that conclusion is very subjective. Perhaps some bartering went on with their owner whereby if there was a reduction there was a promise to drop the matter. Who knows.

So a more accurate analogy was that someone has been found guilty of manslaughter but on appeal they were still found guilty but on reflection their sentence was reduced

[rolymiller]

If this derby form is owt to go by their fans are shyting themselves irrespective of any potential points loss.


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[Brin]

When SWFC,s points deduction was halved it wasn't because they were found not guilty on appeal.
The independent panel upheld that they were guilty and the reason why there points deduction was reduced because the panel thought that the 12 points was excessively severe.
How they came to that conclusion is very subjective. Perhaps some bartering went on with their owner whereby if there was a reduction there was a promise to drop the matter. Who knows.

So a more accurate analogy was that someone has been found guilty of manslaughter but on appeal they were still found guilty but on reflection their sentence was reduced

Flour, slight digress off the thread but could you really ever see that happening in a Court of Law?

[flourbasher]

Not sure Brin I'm not in the legal profession.
I've heard of sentences being too lenient and therefore increased so I suppose it's possible for sentences to be reduced as well

[WanChaiMiller]

But the EFL suggested/requested for an independent panel to deal with it, so in essence they still sent it for just punishment. Purely just an arse covering exercise for the EFL so, they couldn't be accused of personally handing down whatever judgement was handed out, bunch of cowards the lot of em. As it turned out it was a fix as 6 points were later removed, which again wasn't just.

You're either fully guilty or not. All evidence in mitigation should have been heard at the time of the hearing but somehow, Weds managed to find new mitigating circumstances after the charge of -12 points was handed down.. As it was, they removed the 6 points when they should have removed them all. I have never heard of a 50/50 sentence in football.

Take a court sentence. A person is found guilty of said charge and sent down. Appeal is heard and after deliberation the defendant is found NOT guilty therefore all criminal charges are removed and expunged, as the incident never happened. Not in football though.

All these hearing are dealt with by independent panels. Its the rules.

The EFL are simply an executive body. Like the Government is to Parliament and Courts.

The Independent panels apply rules made by club Chairmen (a bit like our courts).

[Brin]

All these hearing are dealt with by independent panels. Its the rules.

The EFL are simply an executive body. Like the Government is to Parliament and Courts.

The Independent panels apply rules made by club Chairmen (a bit like our courts).

WanChaiMiller, you think what you want to

[WanChaiMiller]

WanChaiMiller, you think what you want to

Take a look at this. See what you think.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/august...ration-panels/