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Thread: The Omicron Thread.

  1. #91
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    Restrictions now are absolutely bo**ox!

    They imposed new ones today over here, not so severe, but anyway (pubs/restaurants to close at 23:00, max 8 per table, work from home if possible etc, etc).

    0,009 % of our population need hospital care (of any kind) due to Covid right now…

    Last two weeks of last year 5 people died over here from/with Covid every day, during the seasonal flu in 2017/18 14 people died every day from/with the flu…

    Under sized under funded NHS is the answer to why they impose the restrictions when they now have seasonal flu, gastric flu and Covid, among other things, to cope with.

    I imagine there are quite a few parallels to other countries, such as GB (I imagine that your NHS haven’t seen the from Brexit promised billions of pounds yet…).

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    150,000 covid related deaths in the uk - fiddling stats to suit a narrative. Where are the 6,000 deaths a day in January without restrictions as predicted by Sage? It was 77 yesterday and even that figure is probably overblown. Bojos Government didn't even believe in the restrictions as they were out partying when everyone else was supposed to be in lockdown. Does anyone really believe this Government cares about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phild View Post
    150,000 covid related deaths in the uk - fiddling stats to suit a narrative. Where are the 6,000 deaths a day in January without restrictions as predicted by Sage? It was 77 yesterday and even that figure is probably overblown. Bojos Government didn't even believe in the restrictions as they were out partying when everyone else was supposed to be in lockdown. Does anyone really believe this Government cares about you?
    This is worth a watch:

    https://youtu.be/hOlEYcd1nyI

    Javi’s trying to give a politician style of answer that’s not washing well with the doctor lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by phild View Post
    150,000 covid related deaths in the uk - fiddling stats to suit a narrative. Where are the 6,000 deaths a day in January without restrictions as predicted by Sage? It was 77 yesterday and even that figure is probably overblown. Bojos Government didn't even believe in the restrictions as they were out partying when everyone else was supposed to be in lockdown. Does anyone really believe this Government cares about you?

    How many died of the flu in previous years or would have died anyway? Vaccinating fit and healthy kids under 16 should result in a criminal charge or in later years the government sued if there are issues with fertility etc!

    Let the younger generation have a life FFS and those who need protection either stay indoors or take a risk as I do! School years/uni should be remembered with love - well for many anyway as you spend a lifetime working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    How many died of the flu in previous years or would have died anyway? Vaccinating fit and healthy kids under 16 should result in a criminal charge or in later years the government sued if there are issues with fertility etc!

    Let the younger generation have a life FFS and those who need protection either stay indoors or take a risk as I do! School years/uni should be remembered with love - well for many anyway as you spend a lifetime working!
    But then surely they just won't get vaccinated if they don't want to. There's no detriment for someone under 16 in not having the vax Al.

  6. #96
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    Wakey wakey!!! I have been on here highlighting the pandemic of panic and have taken dog's abuse but- if you swallowed this Covid crap- read this


    Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):

    Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure

    In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

    Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

    You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

    You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).

    You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

    You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

    You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

    You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

    Irreversible damage to trust

    However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

    You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

    You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

    When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

    There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

    This emergency must stop!

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    The latest figures for Covid worldwide and at home courtesy of Covid live, Worldometer.

    The cases of Covid are much higher now, despite the jabs, social distancing and masks than they have ever been, even at the peak last winter. BUT serious illness and death's are lower than when the pandemic first began. Hopefully it has peaked and we will be back to normal by Spring.

    Active cases in the world. 46, 946, 803
    In mild condition. 46, 851, 009 (98.8%)
    In serious/critical condition 95, 794 (0.2%)

    The UK has had so far 14, 732, 594 cases and 150, 609 deaths.

    Currently in the UK there are 3, 636, 111 active cases of which 820 are in a critical condition.

    I have been following the pandemic since it began on the world clock, and I have never seen the critical cases more than 0.5%. While any death is one death too many, especially if you have lost a loved one to it, I don't believe the hysteria and panic has justified the figures.

    At it's peak last year when the most death's were recorded there were just under one million new cases a day recorded worldwide. Now there are almost three million new cases a day being recorded, but serious infections, deaths and hospital stays are falling.
    I think we will all get it sooner or later, but hopefully in milder form and that this is the beginning of the end.

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