Careless Tories!

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[QUOTE=MadAmster;40411331]If someone had got a fast track contract, supplied the goods they were contracted to supply and those goods were of the correct standard (or better) then I too see no issue with fast track.

It's the billions paid out to people who either didn't supply the goods (they still owe HMG/NHS the goods, then, don't they?) or supplied shoddy goods who need sorting.

For instance, if Mone (her husband) supplied shoddy goods then there is a case to answer. Profits back to HMG and likely the cost of the shoddy goods as well.[/QUO

There are many issues,

1. People set up companies to benefit from this, with no prior experience of making or even supplying PPE.
2. By all accounts there were companies with the required knowledge and experience who were able and willing to supply PPE that were ignored.
3. Many of those that were awarded contracts took advantage of the situation and took an excessive commission merely for being the go between, which is where Mone's claim to be "just trying to help" falls apart, a multi millionaire" just trying to help her country" does not charge excessive commission for doing so, indeed if she and her husband were being truly altruistic, they would have done at cost.
4. The vast majority of contracts awarded via the VIP lane went to contacts who were in some way connected to the Tory party - even related in some cases which suggests very strongly that it was seen as a way to dish out favours or in other words corruption.
5. Mone and her husband set up the company in such a way as their involvement was not readily apparent and when the Gruaniad revealed that she was, they lied and had their lawyers deny any such involvement. She was at the time a Tory member of the House of Lords, so not declaring a connection was deceit pure and simple.


In summary, this is a classic case of greedy people taking advantage of a situation to make a fast buck, aided and abetted it seems by some in government. It stinks of corruption and mismanagement but then thats what the Tories have been doing to this country for the last 13 years or so, ripping people off and handing out favours to connections.

The scale of losses on PPE is estimated at around £11 billion, even in a crisis situation where one might expect some mistakes, thats a lot of wasted money.

[MadAmster]

There are many issues,

1. People set up companies to benefit from this, with no prior experience of making or even supplying PPE.
2. By all accounts there were companies with the required knowledge and experience who were able and willing to supply PPE that were ignored.
3. Many of those that were awarded contracts took advantage of the situation and took an excessive commission merely for being the go between, which is where Mone's claim to be "just trying to help" falls apart, a multi millionaire" just trying to help her country" does not charge excessive commission for doing so, indeed if she and her husband were being truly altruistic, they would have done at cost.
4. The vast majority of contracts awarded via the VIP lane went to contacts who were in some way connected to the Tory party - even related in some cases which suggests very strongly that it was seen as a way to dish out favours or in other words corruption.
5. Mone and her husband set up the company in such a way as their involvement was not readily apparent and when the Gruaniad revealed that she was, they lied and had their lawyers deny any such involvement. She was at the time a Tory member of the House of Lords, so not declaring a connection was deceit pure and simple.


In summary, this is a classic case of greedy people taking advantage of a situation to make a fast buck, aided and abetted it seems by some in government. It stinks of corruption and mismanagement but then thats what the Tories have been doing to this country for the last 13 years or so, ripping people off and handing out favours to connections.

The scale of losses on PPE is estimated at around £11 billion, even in a crisis situation where one might expect some mistakes, thats a lot of wasted money.

It's also true that some Labour and Lib Dem politicians put forward companies to the VIP lane "committee" or whatever it was. None of them got a contract. That might also be true of other parties.

The fact that only those put forward by Tories got contracts stinks and is possibly yet another transgression of Law.

[swaledale]

It's also true that some Labour and Lib Dem politicians put forward companies to the VIP lane "committee" or whatever it was. None of them got a contract. That might also be true of other parties.

The fact that only those put forward by Tories got contracts stinks and is possibly yet another transgression of Law.

It also demonstrates that the gutting of the procurement depts in the Civil Service was a false economy, the only reason these shysters got involved was because there weren't the staff to do it "in house". Though why in an emergency staff could not ahve been reassigned to PPE procurement, I mean how hard is it to ring up a company and get quotes for a product. I could have done it!!

This is true of much of the outsourcing and employment of consultants to do the work previously done in house - sure it looks like the cost of employing civil servants has been reduced, but in reality bigger sums are wasted on outside contractors and consultants.

Don't even ask what £30 billion spent on the test and trace programme achieved!!

[swaledale]

So the Tory government pas a third bill on Rwanda that will not achieve what they intend, neither send Asylum seekers to Rwanda or stop people risking their lives to cross the channel. More than that though, we see a Uk Government actually legislate to potentially break international law and put the country in the same bracket as Russia and Belarus.

This is a dangerous step, no doubt it will be frustrated in the Lords, but a step towards totalitarianism. When a government passes legislation to overrule law both domestic and international because it suits them, then beware, because next time it will use it against its own citizens.

Those who think that the phrase, reminiscent of 1930's Germany is overblown are forgetting the lessons of history.

There was one laugh though, no sorry two, the 1st was Lee Anderson who left the "no" lobby and abstained becuase labour were taking the piss out of him, so clearly his bluff no nonesnes persona is a front, and Theres Coffey who claimed that the shadow Home secretary couldn't get the country right when she referred to Kigali, obviously not knowing that Kigali is the capital of Rwanda. With politicians of such quality the Tory party are spoiling us.

You wouldn't think that there were pressing measures like Dr's strikes, train strikes, crumbling schools, a cost of living crisis, the damaging effect of Brexit etc etc. given the focus on flawed policy which will never achieve its aims.

[swaledale]

Blimey its been a week for the Tories, good ole Truss goes "full trump" in the states and in her delusion claims it was some mythical blob or deep state that removed her, not as was the case, her own party after her disastrous "mini" budget which spooked the markets - you know those free markets she is so in favour of!!

Then the Tories resident "working class tw@t, Anderson gets the whip removed for making overtly racist comments, mind you the guy has previous, should really be sacked from the party, expect to see him defect to reform soon.

finally Braverman makes some startlingly divisive comments, which seem aimed at causing more unrest and trouble, mm now where has she done that before?

Seems the Tories are becoming more and more like Nazi Party light as time moves on, good, because it will do them no good.

[Trickytreesreds]

Arachnophobia- the fear of arachnids
Claustrophobia - the fear of enclosed/small spaces.
So theoretically Islamophobia should be - the fear of Islam.
It is not the fear of Muslims!
It would be 'Muslimophobia' if so!
This is because "Islam' is a religion not a race or person!
Logic should now tell us that because Islam is a religion, not a race, Lee Andersons comments cannot be racist as he wasn't talking about a race.
We do not have Sharia law in this country. We can and should be able to criticise whatever religion we like!
And lawmakers should realise, it's not against the law to criticise Islam in this country.
No more than it is racist to criticise a country/city like Israel, Palestine or London, because there is no law saying you can't speak badly of a place either.
People need to stop saying comments are racist everytime someone says something they don't like or don't want to hear.
Being an Islamist as defined by all these dictionaries is ��
Oxford Dictionary- ISLAMIST
'a person who believes that political systems should be based on the teachings of Islam'
Collins dictionary - ISLAMIST
'An islamist is someone who believes strongly in Islamic ideas and laws'
Cambridge dictionary - ISLAMIST
'Relating to Islam, or to a strong belief that Islam should influence political systems'
So not only was he not racist, he was also correct about Khan and the current state of London.
These days in the UK you get the sack for speaking the truth.



He isn't wrong about Radicals influencing politics.

https://fb.watch/qsKdPaKc21/

[swaledale]

Arachnophobia- the fear of arachnids
Claustrophobia - the fear of enclosed/small spaces.
So theoretically Islamophobia should be - the fear of Islam.
It is not the fear of Muslims!
It would be 'Muslimophobia' if so!
This is because "Islam' is a religion not a race or person!
Logic should now tell us that because Islam is a religion, not a race, Lee Andersons comments cannot be racist as he wasn't talking about a race.
We do not have Sharia law in this country. We can and should be able to criticise whatever religion we like!
And lawmakers should realise, it's not against the law to criticise Islam in this country.
No more than it is racist to criticise a country/city like Israel, Palestine or London, because there is no law saying you can't speak badly of a place either.
People need to stop saying comments are racist everytime someone says something they don't like or don't want to hear.
Being an Islamist as defined by all these dictionaries is ��
Oxford Dictionary- ISLAMIST
'a person who believes that political systems should be based on the teachings of Islam'
Collins dictionary - ISLAMIST
'An islamist is someone who believes strongly in Islamic ideas and laws'
Cambridge dictionary - ISLAMIST
'Relating to Islam, or to a strong belief that Islam should influence political systems'
So not only was he not racist, he was also correct about Khan and the current state of London.
These days in the UK you get the sack for speaking the truth.



He isn't wrong about Radicals influencing politics.

https://fb.watch/qsKdPaKc21/

Anderson speaking the truth? That will be a first! I mean this is the guy who has a record of racism, a record of contradicting himself and is but a talentless grifter, exploiting the foolish and gullible, such as yourself. Now knowing he won't get
re-elected as a Tory MP, he is deliberately being provocative because he can and to keep his gig on GeeBeebies where those incapable of critical thought, lap up this crap.

I get it that the gammons like somebody saying stuff they think, but really you would ahve to be extremely thick to think he has any relevance other than a **** stirrer.

Still I'm sure the billionaire tax avoiding ex pats who fund this ****, will feel vindicated and the useful idiots will continue to follow along, not understanding that they are merely being used for someone's agenda.

[Trickytreesreds]

Anderson speaking the truth? That will be a first! I mean this is the guy who has a record of racism, a record of contradicting himself and is but a talentless grifter, exploiting the foolish and gullible, such as yourself. Now knowing he won't get
re-elected as a Tory MP, he is deliberately being provocative because he can and to keep his gig on GeeBeebies where those incapable of critical thought, lap up this crap.

I get it that the gammons like somebody saying stuff they think, but really you would ahve to be extremely thick to think he has any relevance other than a **** stirrer.

Still I'm sure the billionaire tax avoiding ex pats who fund this ****, will feel vindicated and the useful idiots will continue to follow along, not understanding that they are merely being used for someone's agenda.

If he has a record for racism, why hasn't he been prosecuted?
Does he have the same cloak on invulnerability as Diane Abbot or David Lammy has?

No sir, its gullible fools like you, who keep apologising for everyone else, that fuels your anti Tory rants.
I don't give 2 flying F's what happens to Lee Anderson.

But he isn't wrong in everything he has said. The 2 faced hypocrisy of Khan needs calling out. Yet that falls under the free speech rule and that is something that Islam will not tolerate either.

You keep ignoring things under your nose. The politicians have done it since Blair started all this. Now they don't seem to like whats coming their way.
Funnily, Tories and Labour MP's have been targetted.
Tories for calling it out.
Labour for daring not to agree with Islam followers and falling into line.

Fun and games to come.


The current hot topic is no go zones. Denials every where, lol
Hunt youtube for your evidence, that they are very real.
Then ask Sweden about their no go zones, where the police refuse to go.
There is a common denominator

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If he has a record for racism, why hasn't he been prosecuted?
Does he have the same cloak on invulnerability as Diane Abbot or David Lammy has?

No sir, its gullible fools like you, who keep apologising for everyone else, that fuels your anti Tory rants.
I don't give 2 flying F's what happens to Lee Anderson.

But he isn't wrong in everything he has said. The 2 faced hypocrisy of Khan needs calling out. Yet that falls under the free speech rule and that is something that Islam will not tolerate either.

You keep ignoring things under your nose. The politicians have done it since Blair started all this. Now they don't seem to like whats coming their way.
Funnily, Tories and Labour MP's have been targetted.
Tories for calling it out.
Labour for daring not to agree with Islam followers and falling into line.

Fun and games to come.


The current hot topic is no go zones. Denials every where, lol
Hunt youtube for your evidence, that they are very real.
Then ask Sweden about their no go zones, where the police refuse to go.
There is a common denominator

yidda yadda, talking *******s as usual Tricky, best **** off back to Thailand and do us all a favour.

[swaledale]

So now we have Wragg dishing out other peoples phone numbers because he'd been sending "dic" picks and felt compromised? I mean he is not some naïve ****ager (though he looks like one) he is a bloody MP! Yet apparently this isn't an offence that requires the Tory Whip to be removed and fellow Tories are making out he is some kind of victim? Are there more senior Tories who might be embarrassed by this?