Transfers in and out Summer 2023

[swaledale]

Ok lets see what happens in terms of players sold and players brought in to the club this summer.

I note there is discussion over Waghorn who has left Coventry, for me, even at league 1 level I wouldn't want him, better younger and cheaper strikers out there.

Other names being suggested on tinternet.

Alfie May, Sean Clare, Charlie Lindsay, Sonny Bradley no idea how realistic these are but some good ones there potnetially.

As for players being sold, there are rumours that Norwich City are looking to bid for Cashin.

Should we cash in on Cashin?

[MadAmster]

Lots of rumours from the usual clickbait suspects. All BS naturally. I will believe we might be interested in player X when dcfc.co.uk says he's signed.

Personally, I don't know enough about how the rumoured prospects play. How does Alfie May get his goals. If we bought him, would we play to his strengths or would we try to turn a fox in the box (if he is one) into a target man which he may well not be. Would he fit into Warne's requirements both as a player within whatever the preferred system is going to be and as a person? I have no idea so won't comment on his suitability or otherwise. If he's a Collins type and we persist in having Didzy as the main striker, would Alfie be happy waiting his chance? Same goes for the rest. I don't know enough about them to have a guess at whether or not they would fit Warne's tactics or pass the person/player tests

The Canaries? They can do one. Not interested in selling Cashin. If we fail to go up this time round, he, Sibs,Bird et al can chase the dream but, for now, I want them to get DCFC back in the Championship.

[Trickytreesreds]

Lots of rumours from the usual clickbait suspects. All BS naturally. I will believe we might be interested in player X when dcfc.co.uk says he's signed.

Personally, I don't know enough about how the rumoured prospects play. How does Alfie May get his goals. If we bought him, would we play to his strengths or would we try to turn a fox in the box (if he is one) into a target man which he may well not be. Would he fit into Warne's requirements both as a player within whatever the preferred system is going to be and as a person? I have no idea so won't comment on his suitability or otherwise. If he's a Collins type and we persist in having Didzy as the main striker, would Alfie be happy waiting his chance? Same goes for the rest. I don't know enough about them to have a guess at whether or not they would fit Warne's tactics or pass the person/player tests

The Canaries? They can do one. Not interested in selling Cashin. If we fail to go up this time round, he, Sibs,Bird et al can chase the dream but, for now, I want them to get DCFC back in the Championship.

Aye but the same applies to any club. If the offer comes along and the player himself smells an opportunity, it's happening.
You are a long way short yet, of being able to knock back offers I'm afraid.
Champs clubs are the same to Lg 1, as the Prem is to the Championship.

[swaledale]

Aye but the same applies to any club. If the offer comes along and the player himself smells an opportunity, it's happening.
You are a long way short yet, of being able to knock back offers I'm afraid.
Champs clubs are the same to Lg 1, as the Prem is to the Championship.

I would agree, if the fee is high enough and the player wants to go, then we will be unable to prevent them going. Not sure how the revised business plan works but presumably if we can raise money through transfer fees, it can be reinvested!

[Geoff Parkstone]

I would agree, if the fee is high enough and the player wants to go, then we will be unable to prevent them going. Not sure how the revised business plan works but presumably if we can raise money through transfer fees, it can be reinvested!

Please note 31 May 2023 as a day that will live in infamy. In a public post Swale says to Tricky "I would agree....." Possibly the first time this has been said and likely the last for a few years....

[swaledale]

Please note 31 May 2023 as a day that will live in infamy. In a public post Swale says to Tricky "I would agree....." Possibly the first time this has been said and likely the last for a few years....

If only this was the one time when you were correct. However, if you have enough time to waste and are sad enough, I think if you trawled back through some posts over recent months where on football matters at any rate I have previously agreed with Tricky!

But enough of this off the the topic of the thread, the idea was to generate some discussion, plus any rumours floating around for Derby.

In terms of where we need positions filled, centre backs clearly, right back and left back, and at least a couple of strikers, even if one is a young one to develop alongside McGoldrick, who we cannot expect perform as he did this season, or stay fit.

So numbers in?

My take is min of 2 CB, 2 FB, 2 ST and a creative CM or WM and a good DM. At least 8 and possibly with cover up to 12 players required.

[MadAmster]

You are a long way short yet, of being able to knock back offers I'm afraid.

Are we, though?

No debt other than an alleged £1.5M we still owe Arsenal for Bielik.

On the plus side, the business plan we operated under last season budgeted on income from average gates of 17,000. Gates were 10K higher than that. We didn't overspend on the business plan budget AND we had 10K more through the doors at every game. There's £5.3M extra in gate receipts (based on £20 a ticket) plus whatever we had left from the budgeted income. That's more than the entire budget of some of our rivals. Based on modest fees, some freebies and sensible wages that's enough for the 10 to 12 players we need.

The current squad counts 16 players but that includes Loach who will be 3rd choice keeper and coach and it includes Oduroh who I expect to be in the 21s again. Basically 14 players. 10 to 12 newbies is what we need so we can rotate players to prevent another running out of steam. Having said that, we should remember that half of last season's squad only had 2 or 3 weeks of pre season and that, IMO, is what caused the "blow up". I fully expect the squad to be almost complete when pre season starts, probably on Monday June 26th, giving us a 6 week pre season which is par for the course.

[Trickytreesreds]

Are we, though?

No debt other than an alleged £1.5M we still owe Arsenal for Bielik.

On the plus side, the business plan we operated under last season budgeted on income from average gates of 17,000. Gates were 10K higher than that. We didn't overspend on the business plan budget AND we had 10K more through the doors at every game. There's £5.3M extra in gate receipts (based on £20 a ticket) plus whatever we had left from the budgeted income. That's more than the entire budget of some of our rivals. Based on modest fees, some freebies and sensible wages that's enough for the 10 to 12 players we need.

The current squad counts 16 players but that includes Loach who will be 3rd choice keeper and coach and it includes Oduroh who I expect to be in the 21s again. Basically 14 players. 10 to 12 newbies is what we need so we can rotate players to prevent another running out of steam. Having said that, we should remember that half of last season's squad only had 2 or 3 weeks of pre season and that, IMO, is what caused the "blow up". I fully expect the squad to be almost complete when pre season starts, probably on Monday June 26th, giving us a 6 week pre season which is par for the course.

So you are saying DCFC don't have any debts?
That you can brush away offers for clubs and tell players you are going no where?
Wow you must be the only club outside of Manchester that can do that then,

In fact Skybet has Derby down as champions. I suggest you run along quickly to the bookies and snap their hand off.

[swaledale]

So you are saying DCFC don't have any debts?
That you can brush away offers for clubs and tell players you are going no where?
Wow you must be the only club outside of Manchester that can do that then,

In fact Skybet has Derby down as champions. I suggest you run along quickly to the bookies and snap their hand off.

I'm going to have to agree with Tricky here, (note to GP not even the 2nd time I've done so on football issues), we may financially be sound, but if a club at a higher level offers a significant fee for one of our players, together with higher wages and a chance to play at a higher level, then I don't see how Derby can knock the offer back. More so if the player has only 1 year left on their contract, the club would not turn down a couple of million now for a player who could go free (barring some compo if an academy player) and who would be less than happy to have his football ambitions stifled by the club.

So its entirely possible that we will lose a player and if Norwich make a bid for Cashin that meets the clubs value, then the lad is more than likely want to go and play for a club with a realistic chance of challenging for promotion from the championship with a contract that could be £10k a week more than he is on, with performance and promotion bonuses on top of that.

I wouldn't want to stand in his or that of any other player with ambition, they have to think of their careers.

[MadAmster]

So you are saying DCFC don't have any debts?
That you can brush away offers for clubs and tell players you are going no where?
Wow you must be the only club outside of Manchester that can do that then,

In fact Skybet has Derby down as champions. I suggest you run along quickly to the bookies and snap their hand off.

I suggest you be somewhat less condescending in someone else's house.

Debts? If you had bothered to read ALL of my post you would see that we still owe Arsenal part of the transfer fee. The EFL is happy we have paid our bills and have made a profit on last season. I could have gone on to explain that, like any company, there will be invoices received that haven't reached their due date, not for great amounts but a small "debt".

Yes, we are in a position where we can choose who we sell and for what price. Bielik will go, possibly to Brum, if they can sort their financial mess out. He's probably the one player we'd let go "on the cheap". He doesn't want to be here as it negatively affects his International career prospects. Warne knows and understands that and has said so. For the first time in a long while we are in a position where cheapskate offers for players can be laughed at and turned down. Not only are we in a healthy financial position, we will, again, sell well more than 20K season tickets and will again see crowds in the upper 20K's. No more selling the family jewels for a tanner to pay wages.

We have north of £6M in the kitty with more to come.

Skybet? They are far from the only ones who have us down as favourites for the title. Most, if not all, of the other firms also have Derby at between 5/1 and 6/1.

As I said in another post, we currently have 14 players. We need a dozen more in order to have wiggle room in the rotation department and avoid running out of steam again.