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The owner doesn't care about Southend. If they go through, he can redevelop Roots Hall for housing, if he sells them, he gets money and can redevelop Roots Hall for housing, seems to be a theme right?Originally Posted by upthemaggies
Best way of dealing with these scum owners, make it law that sports facilities can never be anything other than sports facilities. One fell swoop you get rid of property developers only interested in the land
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Would a bond deposited with the FA by any potential owner help? The lower down the Leagues you go. I guess the less it would have to be. If used for payment of players/staff or HMRC it would then have to be topped up though and what would the consequences of not doing that be? A points deduction on the club? Would it put potential owners off getting involved in lower league footy? Would the owners it did put off be one's you would prob want to avoid anyway?
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Somethings got to change in the game because it's got to be the custodians directly who should be held accountable and punished. Not the victims which are the club itself such as any staff who may not be getting their wage paid, and the fans.
What also needs to happen is that grounds or the land the ground is on be given protection status almost like grade 2 listed buildings in that as part of planning the land can only be developed in the future for the football club. Football clubs are part of our communities and heritage.
The only way to change it would then to make an application to relocate to another area with proof of funding and construction of a new stadium are all in place. Until such time the new stadium is handed over then the status of the land the former ground was on could then be changed to something else.
It's got to stop happening, but it doesn't. It shows how lucky we were as this could quite easily have happened to us.
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In the first 80 years of the Football League there were just 2 points deductions, Sunderland in 1890 and Stockport in 1927 (Notts got one too but it was overturned).
Sine then - and just in the top 4 tiers and not including those that were successfully appealed.....
1 points deduction in the 1960s
3 issued in the 1970s
5 in the 1980s
5 in the 1990s
19 in the 2000s
18 in the 2010s
8 so far in the 2020s (3 of those for Reading alone)
Points deductions are clearly not acting as a deterrent.
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You could even claim that they are an incentive. They can speed up the demise of the football side to release the land which is the real target. As usual fans have the answers (see Mad-Magpie above) but the crooks in power have no reason to implement it.
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You missed the heaviest points deduction....... Luton Town, - 30 points 2008-9....... which basically relegated them before they had kicked a ball.
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I've not made it clear that those figures are for how many separate punishments were issued each decade, not the grand total of accumulated points taken away.You missed the heaviest points deduction....... Luton Town, - 30 points 2008-9....... which basically relegated them before they had kicked a ball.
The full list.... in reverse order (top 4 tiers only)
16th Aug 2023 Reading
Start 2023/24 Wigan Ath.
4th Apr 2023 Reading
20th Mar 2023 Wigan Ath.
17th Nov 2021 Reading
22nd Sep 2021 Derby County
Start 2020/21 Sheffield Wed
22nd Jul 2020 Wigan Ath.
19th Dec 2019 Macclesfield
18th Jul 2019 Bury
Start 2019/20 Bolton W.
22nd Mar 2019 Birmingham C.
End of 2015/16 Bury
24th Apr 2015 Rotherham Utd
28th Apr 2014 Wimbledon
2nd Aug 2013 Coventry City
20th Apr 2013 Portsmouth
28th Mar 2013 Coventry City
9th Mar 2012 Port Vale
17th Feb 2012 Portsmouth
6th Apr 2011 Torquay Utd
6th Apr 2011 Hereford
22nd Feb 2011 Plymouth Arg.
6th May 2010 Hartlepool U.
17th Mar 2010 Portsmouth
28th Jan 2010 Crystal P.
Start 2009/10 Southampton
1st Jun 2009 Crystal P.
30th Apr 2009 Stockport Co
25th Feb 2009 Darlington
7th Aug 2008 Rotherham Utd
10th Jul 2008 Luton Town
8th Aug 2008 Bournemouth
21st Mar 2008 Rotherham Utd
8th Feb 2008 Bournemouth
23rd Nov 2007 Luton Town
3rd Aug 2007 Leeds United
18th May 2007 Boston Utd
4th May 2007 Leeds United
Start 2006/07 Rotherham Utd
25th May 2006 Bury
29th Apr 2005 Cambridge Utd
3rd Dec 2004 Wrexham
19th Jul 2002 Boston Utd
3rd May 2001 Chesterfield
17th Apr 1998 Leyton Orient
14th Jan 1997 Middlesbrough
9th Dec 1996 Brighton & HA
12th Nov 1990 Manchester U.
12th Nov 1990 Arsenal
13th Nov 1987 Halifax Town
8th Oct 1987 Tranmere Rov
17th Jan 1983 Blackpool
10th May 1982 Mansfield T.
12th Apr 1982 Bristol Rov
9th Sep 1974 Aldershot
28th Mar 1974 Newport Co.
21st Dec 1973 Preston NE
13th May 1968 Peterborough
26th Mar 1927 Stockport Co
19th Oct 1890 Sunderland
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Mike Newell complaining about corruption, tapping up and the like, FA investigate and only team who gets caught is... Mike Newell's Luton, amazing that!You missed the heaviest points deduction....... Luton Town, - 30 points 2008-9....... which basically relegated them before they had kicked a ball.
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The one that really p...d me off was when Leeds had points deducted in L1, allowing Forest to be promoted in 3rd place
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And later us being relegated from L2, when macclesfield had not paid anybody for months, and never even started in L2 the following season, It was a disgrace how they were not deducted points or thrown out the season they pipped us, and sent us down, Not that it matters now, as we have recovered
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