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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by arab777 View Post
    Some strange reactions on this thread when we are exactly where we should be on that list and I don't think the people who voted got much wrong with the rest.


    In Scotland Celtic and Rangers are way ahead. Celtic probably edge it with the worldwide fanbase and winning the biggest trophy in European football.
    Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs not a lot between them, Aberdeen benefiting from being a one club city and Edinburgh Scotland 2nd largest city.
    United stand on their own in 6th
    Then you have another grouping of similar sized teams Motherwell, Dundee, St Mirren, Dunfermline, Falkirk, St Johnstone with Partick Thistle, Morton hovering just below.
    Next lot would be the likes of Airdrie, Inverness, Ross County, Raith Rovers, Ayr United, Livingston, Hamilton
    The rest are pretty small clubs.
    Agree 100% plus Killie who I would put ahead of Motherwell and the Funsters

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    When you’re stuck in the League of Fun, all such arguments are moot frankly. Does it actually matter? Down south for instance, Leeds United are by every measure a far bigger Club than Bournemouth for instance. Except in one - Leeds are in the Championship while Bournemouth are in the Premier League and frankly in many ways that trumps everything else.

    Also, regarding ourselves as a Club, being in the top flight is everything. In terms of status, money, attractiveness to players, etc etc. it doesn’t matter how big a fan base you have, these elements are essential to being a ‘Big’ Club and we need it back pronto. We have a laugh over the Funny team’s demise through the 70s onwards and the subsequent reversal in sizes of the respective Club’s support, but we’ve kinda got away with it over the last decade as they have continued to have been just as honking as ever in that time. But if they were to suddenly put in a consistent period of relative success and improvement while we maintained our own recent Funny behaviour, then crowd sizes could easily reverse again in the future. Just like we ourselves managed from the 60s onwards.

    This Club was built in its present form from over 60 years ago and it’s taken a lot of sweat, toil, tears and sheer bloody hard work to get it to where it is today. It would be tragic for it all to get chucked away by idiots in a fraction of that time. For that particular warning from history you only have to look 100 yards up the road……………….
    Last edited by JamesMcClean; 15-02-2024 at 03:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    When you’re stuck in the League of Fun, all such arguments are moot frankly. Does it actually matter? Down south for instance, Leeds United are by every measure a far bigger Club than Bournemouth for instance. Except in one - Leeds are in the Championship while Bournemouth are in the Premier League and frankly in many ways that trumps everything else.

    Also, regarding ourselves as a Club, being in the top flight is everything. In terms of status, money, attractiveness to players, etc etc. it doesn’t matter how big a fan base you have, these elements are essential to being a ‘Big’ Club and we need it back pronto. We have a laugh over the Funny team’s demise through the 70s onwards and the subsequent reversal in sizes of the respective Club’s support, but we’ve kinda got away with it over the last decade as they have continued to have been just as honking as ever in that time. But if they were to suddenly put in a consistent period of relative success and improvement while we maintained our own recent Funny behaviour, then crowd sizes could easily reverse again in the future. Just like we ourselves managed from the 60s onwards.

    This Club was built in its present form from over 60 years ago and it’s taken a lot of sweat, toil, tears and sheer bloody hard work to get it to where it is today. It would be tragic for it all to get chucked away by idiots in a fraction of that time. For that particular warning from history you only have to look 100 yards up the road……………….
    Brilliant post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    When you’re stuck in the League of Fun, all such arguments are moot frankly. Does it actually matter? Down south for instance, Leeds United are by every measure a far bigger Club than Bournemouth for instance. Except in one - Leeds are in the Championship while Bournemouth are in the Premier League and frankly in many ways that trumps everything else.

    Also, regarding ourselves as a Club, being in the top flight is everything. In terms of status, money, attractiveness to players, etc etc. it doesn’t matter how big a fan base you have, these elements are essential to being a ‘Big’ Club and we need it back pronto. We have a laugh over the Funny team’s demise through the 70s onwards and the subsequent reversal in sizes of the respective Club’s support, but we’ve kinda got away with it over the last decade as they have continued to have been just as honking as ever in that time. But if they were to suddenly put in a consistent period of relative success and improvement while we maintained our own recent Funny behaviour, then crowd sizes could easily reverse again in the future. Just like we ourselves managed from the 60s onwards.

    This Club was built in its present form from over 60 years ago and it’s taken a lot of sweat, toil, tears and sheer bloody hard work to get it to where it is today. It would be tragic for it all to get chucked away by idiots in a fraction of that time. For that particular warning from history you only have to look 100 yards up the road……………….
    Very eloquently put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arab777 View Post
    Some strange reactions on this thread when we are exactly where we should be on that list and I don't think the people who voted got much wrong with the rest.


    In Scotland Celtic and Rangers are way ahead. Celtic probably edge it with the worldwide fanbase and winning the biggest trophy in European football.
    Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs not a lot between them, Aberdeen benefiting from being a one club city and Edinburgh Scotland 2nd largest city.
    United stand on their own in 6th
    Then you have another grouping of similar sized teams Motherwell, Dundee, St Mirren, Dunfermline, Falkirk, St Johnstone with Partick Thistle, Morton hovering just below.
    Next lot would be the likes of Airdrie, Inverness, Ross County, Raith Rovers, Ayr United, Livingston, Hamilton
    The rest are pretty small clubs.

    Celtic edge it? Behave!! Rangers are the biggest club. If Celtic died that would be it. Dead and buried. I give them second slot grudgingly but Aberdeen are 3rd by some distance. As the other half of the new firm it could be united in 4th, but nowadays it's hearts , then hibs. United take 6th , then st Johnstone edge it but Dundee have potential nowadays. St Mirren too, and finally Motherwell. That's my top 10 sides in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy Bear View Post
    Celtic edge it? Behave!! Rangers are the biggest club. If Celtic died that would be it. Dead and buried. I give them second slot grudgingly but Aberdeen are 3rd by some distance. As the other half of the new firm it could be united in 4th, but nowadays it's hearts , then hibs. United take 6th , then st Johnstone edge it but Dundee have potential nowadays. St Mirren too, and finally Motherwell. That's my top 10 sides in Scotland.
    Surely you mean The Rangers? Can't imagine that with their short history they are anywhere near as big a club as Celtic. Hope that clears things up for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Surely you mean The Rangers? Can't imagine that with their short history they are anywhere near as big a club as Celtic. Hope that clears things up for you?
    Tax liabilities and debtors
    "We can't be liable, we're a new Club"

    Trophies
    "We have to be regarded as the same club that won them".

    Sums them up perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoke_Arab View Post
    Tax liabilities and debtors
    "We can't be liable, we're a new Club"

    Trophies
    "We have to be regarded as the same club that won them".

    Sums them up perfectly.
    "The big hoose must stay open."

    Do you remember that horrible Hun on Reporting Scotland?.He summed up perfectly your average The Rangers fan,probably related to Teddy Bear tae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Surely you mean The Rangers? Can't imagine that with their short history they are anywhere near as big a club as Celtic. Hope that clears things up for you?
    Were you living down south when Ibrox had the biggest attendance in British football, and that was a game between two fourth tier Scottish sides. This was big news for you southerners. Everyone knows that Ibrox has had more top tier trophies than any other Scottish club. But the level of support for a fourth tier club has never happened in World football. It was big news for your fellow southerners, everyone knew that no other club , especially Pacific shelf fc , would have had any hope of achieving the same crowd in similar circumstances. The Shelfers would have took their clubs advice in emails reminding them about personal hygiene, and stayed home washing their hair or sweeping their kerpits for the entire season. That is one of many reasons why Ibrox is the home of Scotland's biggest and best club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Surely you mean The Rangers? Can't imagine that with their short history they are anywhere near as big a club as Celtic. Hope that clears things up for you?
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    "The big hoose must stay open."

    Do you remember that horrible Hun on Reporting Scotland?.He summed up perfectly your average The Rangers fan,probably related to Teddy Bear tae.
    Certainly is the biggest Mr Boat and it certainly will always stay open. It must be horrible to be a Pacific shelf man and to realise that nothing could ever change that. We don't fear liquidation at Ibrox. That kind of fear is reserved for wee clubs below us. like Celtic etc. Since you lot are not involved, Who do you want to win the big league this year?

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