Sack the groundsman

[islaydarkblue]

So the rain is unprecedented enough to get other parks off.

Nelmsy new of these problems for seasons, not just this season, just like he knew about lake outside the Cox for 10 years that's been sorted with about 5 hours of work.

I hear it's a **** fest behind the scenes at Dens but most ( not you ) seem not to want to know as the shiny new stadium being promised.

I also hear we were fairly close to being bombed out of Gardyne.

I thought that we had a lease for 3 years at Gardyne with the option of an extra year. We moved into Gardyne in June 2022.

[Returnofrros]

But I'm enjoying watching this team playing obviously when the suns oot.

[Dodbroon]

I disagree as tannadice is playable yesterday, noon today, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm......and for the foreseeable......Dens will go off again with a bit of rain.

You are right in all of that. During my 60+ years of attending football in Dundee our pitch has been superior to Tannadice for the vast majority of the time but not now and that is unforgivable. You misunderstand my points regarding the weather. I am not making the weather an excuse for having games off. We all know where the fault lies. I only bring the weather into to it because it is most definitely a factor taking into account the poor state of the pitch. Rainfall is definitely much higher than ‘normal’ and I fully accept that most good pitches would cope, ours doesn’t and it is then and only then that luck in the timing of the bad weather comes into it. The only luck we have had in this regard is bad.

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You are right in all of that. During my 60+ years of attending football in Dundee our pitch has been superior to Tannadice for the vast majority of the time but not now and that is unforgivable. You misunderstand my points regarding the weather. I am not making the weather an excuse for having games off. We all know where the fault lies. I only bring the weather into to it because it is most definitely a factor taking into account the poor state of the pitch. Rainfall is definitely much higher than ‘normal’ and I fully accept that most good pitches would cope, ours doesn’t and it is then and only then that luck in the timing of the bad weather comes into it. The only luck we have had in this regard is bad.

I agree with most of what you've written on this subject. However for simplicity, and to sum up, the root cause of all this is a complete failure over many years to maintain the pitch, that includes ensuring drainage is adequate.

[islaydarkblue]

You are right in all of that. During my 60+ years of attending football in Dundee our pitch has been superior to Tannadice for the vast majority of the time but not now and that is unforgivable. You misunderstand my points regarding the weather. I am not making the weather an excuse for having games off. We all know where the fault lies. I only bring the weather into to it because it is most definitely a factor taking into account the poor state of the pitch. Rainfall is definitely much higher than ‘normal’ and I fully accept that most good pitches would cope, ours doesn’t and it is then and only then that luck in the timing of the bad weather comes into it. The only luck we have had in this regard is bad.

I also study the weather as a hobby and since the middle of January 2024 there has not been a lot of heavy rainfall. There has been a complete lack of snow. If the pitch is unable to cope with a few hours of steady rainfall (not heavy rainfall) why were the pop up sprinklers in use before last Wednesday night’s game against Aberdeen.

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I also study the weather as a hobby and since the middle of January 2024 there has not been a lot of heavy rainfall. There has been a complete lack of snow. If the pitch is unable to cope with a few hours of steady rainfall (not heavy rainfall) why were the pop up sprinklers in use before last Wednesday night’s game against Aberdeen.

The weather isn't the root cause although it is a huge contributory factor.

When the amount of rainfall is low enough to allow the drainage to work it'll be perfectly effective and the pitch will dry out fairly quickly when it stops. The amount of water put out by the sprinklers will be fairly low and only really enough to make the surface slick without actually saturating it.

The rain overnight Saturday was heavy and incessant, I know because I drove from the west on Saturday and it was hellish at times, it also woke me a few times overnight. All other Scottish games had completed before the worst of it. I'm not excusing the condition of the pitch, or the ineffectiveness of the drainage which is the fault of one man, but it really doesn't help to have that kind of rain the night before a game - and we've been unlucky that way four times this season. If our fixtures had been reversed, i.e. away when we were home and home when away, we likely wouldn't be having this conversation.

Worth noting that on at least one of the four postponement dates the weather was so bad that many other games in Scotland were also flooded off suggesting that, whilst we're the worst, we're not the only club in Scotland to fall foul of the unusually high rainfall stats this season.

[Returnofrros]

You are right in all of that. During my 60+ years of attending football in Dundee our pitch has been superior to Tannadice for the vast majority of the time but not now and that is unforgivable. You misunderstand my points regarding the weather. I am not making the weather an excuse for having games off. We all know where the fault lies. I only bring the weather into to it because it is most definitely a factor taking into account the poor state of the pitch. Rainfall is definitely much higher than ‘normal’ and I fully accept that most good pitches would cope, ours doesn’t and it is then and only then that luck in the timing of the bad weather comes into it. The only luck we have had in this regard is bad.

Yes it's rained a bit more this winter.

But if it didn't it wud be something else weather wise.

Plus I pretty much distrust any figs from Govts now and public bodies after the COVID shenanigans.

Blame as you agree with lies fairly and squarely with Nelmsy and the negligence in cost cutting on playing surface.

The day there's heavy rain at tannadice the night before a game and it's off we can maybe re avaluate......until then the tail is firmly on Nelmsy Ass.

[BP33]

Yes it's rained a bit more this winter.

But if it didn't it wud be something else weather wise.

Plus I pretty much distrust any figs from Govts now and public bodies after the COVID shenanigans.

Blame as you agree with lies fairly and squarely with Nelmsy and the negligence in cost cutting on playing surface.

The day there's heavy rain at tannadice the night before a game and it's off we can maybe re avaluate......until then the tail is firmly on Nelmsy Ass.

You’ve hit the nail on the head. That hasn’t happened yet, so we can speculate.

The oldest golf course in the world, was flooded in parts Thursday/ Friday. The drainage is ****ed, but the unprecedented amount of rain hasn’t helped our cause.

It’s totally embarrassing tha5 some of our so called fans are calling on the Club to be fined.

DFC never released a statement slagging the Rangers for turning up late, or their Supporters behaviour in the last gam3cat Dens.

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You’ve hit the nail on the head. That hasn’t happened yet, so we can speculate.

The oldest golf course in the world, was flooded in parts Thursday/ Friday. The drainage is ****ed, but the unprecedented amount of rain hasn’t helped our cause.

It’s totally embarrassing tha5 some of our so called fans are calling on the Club to be fined.

DFC never released a statement slagging the Rangers for turning up late, or their Supporters behaviour in the last gam3cat Dens.

Where are some so called fans calling for the club to be fined? Genuinely haven't seen that.

[Returnofrros]

You’ve hit the nail on the head. That hasn’t happened yet, so we can speculate.

The oldest golf course in the world, was flooded in parts Thursday/ Friday. The drainage is ****ed, but the unprecedented amount of rain hasn’t helped our cause.

It’s totally embarrassing tha5 some of our so called fans are calling on the Club to be fined.

DFC never released a statement slagging the Rangers for turning up late, or their Supporters behaviour in the last gam3cat Dens.

I don't take DCT the LGBT mouthpiece seriously BP.

There is a risk we cud get sanctioned but only after a warning......don't think we have had that yet.

This is a great season, I already think postponements have hampered us and may well do again.