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Thread: The Bamford vs Joseph Conundrum.

  1. #21
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    My stepson is also a Leeds fanatic, he supports bamford and says all the above, creates space etc, I say what others say a striker needs to be selfish and stick the ball in the net, that’s his job, the jury on here is still out.

  2. #22
    I think it maybe why he gets less stick at games as he does put in a fair amount of effort. Trouble is if the three behind him don’t score his weakness sticking it away is exposed.

    Rutter needs to add more regularly goals to everything else he does well if he wants to step up if we get to PL.

    We also slack goals from Kamara and Gruev.

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    When you play a single striker up then that player must have pace and put the ball in the net!

    We don’t currently have that.

    If we don’t have that we end up in the championship

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    The midfield of kamara and gruev plus centre backs from corners need to weigh in with goals.

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    Kamara seems scared to shoot for some strange reason , he’s had a few good chances to pull the trigger but always looks for the pass , just put yer feckin foot through it ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev72 View Post
    Kamara seems scared to shoot for some strange reason , he’s had a few good chances to pull the trigger but always looks for the pass , just put yer feckin foot through it ffs.
    Ironic when you consider that many (including Kamara) seem disinclined to shoot but who might score if they did, and we have Rutter who in the basis of one quite stunning strike seems to think he's a latter-day Lasher!

    But agree with the point, we seem as a team (apart from Summerville), to want to walk the ball over the goal line instead of striking from distance.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    Ironic when you consider that many (including Kamara) seem disinclined to shoot but who might score if they did, and we have Rutter who in the basis of one quite stunning strike seems to think he's a latter-day Lasher!

    But agree with the point, we seem as a team (apart from Summerville), to want to walk the ball over the goal line instead of striking from distance.
    Dan James might be excluded from that given recent strikes. Part of the reason I’d quite like to see Joffy get more minutes as he likes to have a crack from distance

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    Perhaps our players are not encouraged to shoot from distance.
    Perhaps that is seen as giving up possession.
    The same possession that we give up anyway when we miss from 6yrds

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Billyni View Post
    Perhaps our players are not encouraged to shoot from distance.
    Perhaps that is seen as giving up possession.
    The same possession that we give up anyway when we miss from 6yrds
    Very possible young William. There has been quite a lot of analysis of the last few seasons and the trend for less shots from distance and looking at success rates.

    To some extent all modern pro sports are analysed to the nth degree now and definitely noticeable how a lot of teams try to reduce or eliminate the risk of losing the ball and conceding a goal in ‘transition’ which often results in either tippy tappy football without very many if any killer passes (might be seen as too risky) or at the other extreme teams who park the bus and give up possession hoping to win it back and quickly score ‘in transition’ - that reference being attack to defence or vice versa depending on if you win or lose the ball.

    When two teams like that meet the football can be pretty boring to watch and risk averse teams are drilled not to try low percentage outcome things - including shots from distance.

    In the current side Piroe, Gnonto, Gray, Bambi add Ampadu can all strike a ball pretty well from distance (sure Gruev can too just never seen it) as can Joffy (if he ever gets to actually play in a game again) and Greenwood (out on loan at Boro).

    This season pretty sure Piroe and Bambi are the only ones to score from distance - at least 5 yards outside the area - in normal play (as opposed to the Dan James broken play) - so could be some truth in what you say.

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    In a similar "modern football is rubbish" throbbing vein, there seem to have been a lot of comedy goals scored when teams insist on playing pointless (and seemingly endless) tippy tappy with their goalkeepers who ultimately get closed down by opposition forwards only to see the ball bounce off the latter into an open net.

    Rubbish goals. Classic FAFO.

    Should. Never. Happen.

    Going forward? Mix it up. Occasionally shoot from distance and, when you do, immeditely follow up to see if there are any scraps to feed on.

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